I don't play much $25NL I mainly play 100NL so I'm not too familiar with table dynamics, but I always find that recent table dynamics and recent history between players sometimes play a big part in these PF spots.

I've looked at Villain's stats and if I read it correctly they look on the slightly nittier side and 99 (I think I read this right) hands isn't anywhere near enough to take anything away from PF 3-bet, PF fold to 3-bet and 4+ style stats.

I'm a PF nit, but I'm folding QQ PF to a 4-bet in many situations, especially if isn't LP open/steal vs BB or SB spots.

As played of course call flop.

UTG 4bet range is very strong..
I recommend flat call.

can't read stats but vs that stack size I would gii pre
if he is a reg that doesn't use autotopup then I probably wouldn't 3bet

Yes, I was thinking this too.

If you`re not willing to ship preflop, don`t 3bet.

so u saying once you 3 bet, it's better to ship it?
3B light is very strong play. but u saying better not to do it? or light 3B and continue on?

think it's okay to 3b/c sometimes with QQ especially vs a utg 4bet, even if he is a fish.
I meant if he has AA/KK you gonna be stacked anyway, so why not give him the chance to 4bet with some random stuff and getting it in on most flops.

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I meant to say: If you`re not willing to ship preflop, don`t 3b QQ.

So 3B and then fold with QQ PF, no good?

It's perfectly fine

3bet/fold QQ cant be a good thing to do often.

Not 3betting vs regs is also fine...

Small sample size but he's never folded to a 3-bet and hasn't been tight UTG so I'd just get it in pre flop.

Lots of conflicting advice on this one.

Here are my thoughts and everyone can tell me where I go wrong if anywhere.

At a $25 table, I wouldn't think he is 4 betting with anything other than AA, KK, AKs, or AKo (maybe QQ or JJ - you obviously have a QQ yourself, so I'm going to take that out as unlikely). 99% of the time everyone just calls the 3B. So presumably your call is hoping neither an A, K, J, or a suit match to his possible AKs appear on the flop and that he has the AKs, AKo, or JJ. Chances that you will flop a set are obviously not good. With position, I would think a call is ok, but folding is probably the best decision unless you think he is picking up a pattern of yours and just 4betting to get you to fold. Going all-in preflop seems to me to be at best a coin toss and reckless.

With the flop it was great that it was rainbow and A or K didn't show up, but the Jack hurts you. Now, you only beat AKs or AKo, but lose to AA, KK, and JJ. Calling a pot-sized bet doesn't seem profitable to me. You are not likely going to improve. If he bets on the turn, you would almost certainly fold. You got the best situation of him checking through the river,.

I think vs a tightish player with no reads raisin utg we can fold this pre the deep reasonably comfortably. Villains range probably has all AA,KK,QQ and maybe a little JJ but quite possibly not.

I think that flatting the 4bet pre is maybe the worst of the options. On flop with no A,K we probably get basically no value and are still just as behind to AA,KK. We just wont get the opportunity to realize any of our equity with QQ against AK and villain can realize all equity from AA,KK against us.

I prefer folding pre, then 5bet jam pre, then the flat.

I would agree to the decisions, but I think there is some value on the flop against AK. At a $25 table, many people hate to fold AK whether they hit the flop or not.

At these stakes, no one is 4betting with anything other than AA, KK, maybe QQ or AKs but not really. Since you have QQ that narrows down your equity to being a flip at best.
Fold to the 4bet - it's an exploitable leak by people at these stakes that you can safely fold QQ vs. a 4bet. No reason to want to get this in PF.

I think given that fact that it was an under the gun raise and a four bet, AA,KK is very likely. Other Ax hands are possible but most likely a flip of money goes in. I think I like a small three bet, fold to four bet in this spot. Could be wrong though.

Against {QQ+,AK}, QQ and AK both have ~40% equity preflop, not enough to profitably call a 4 bet with but too strong to fold to a 3 bet.

You can flat call preflop with AK and QQ in position.

I think you could have shipped it preflop, but if you call and you get that flop hard to fold versus his stack size. If you both were deeper i think you could have saved yourself

I think you have shipped it preflop. However if you decide to take that line and call his 3 bet, if you get that kind of flop its hard to fold. small chance he cna have A-j or be bluffing with A-K. if you were deeper you couldve got out of this

What are you talking about? We face a 4bet, if we have 40% equity IP that should not even considered to be a fold.

If we 3-bet IP and are 4-bet (as here), we don't have enough equity to profitably 5-bet shove against his likely 4-betting range, and flatting his 4-bet with the intention of folding on the flop is (as you rudely point out) horrible.

Calling IP with QQ/AK against an UTG raise and evaluating OTF is good.

Not enough stats here, but in this situation I'd be torn between getting it in preflop or folding against this exact villain... might be bad? I don't know lol