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05-06-2022 , 04:53 AM
Was it OK? or should i cbet here 1/4 ?


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/6253c5DRy

UTG: $14.38 (144 bb)
MP: $28.92 (289 bb)
CO (Hero): $19.52 (195 bb)
BU: $10.70 (107 bb)
SB: $9.42 (94 bb)
BB: $3.04 (30 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with T♣ T♠
2 players fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN 3-bets to $1, 2 players fold, Hero 4-bets to $2.70, BTN calls $1.70

Flop: ($5.55) 8♠ 3♣ 8♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.90, Hero raises to $16.82 (all-in), BU folds
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05-06-2022 , 09:26 AM
Well next time he snap calls with AA/KK. What are you trying to rep? He only calls with better IMO

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05-06-2022 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by robin.gibouleau
Well next time he snap calls with AA/KK. What are you trying to rep? He only calls with better IMO

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i think he has 100% 5bet with KK and maybe 80% with AA, and his calling range could be KQs, AQs, sometimes AJ, 99, saw many times AK
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05-06-2022 , 11:50 AM
We can 4b smaller preflop because the BTNs 3b range is more polarized.

OTF we will be cbetting 1/3 because we are OOP and more polarized than if we were IP.

x/r probably isnt terrible, but the pot is already huge so giving a free card is not worth the risk.

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05-08-2022 , 01:05 PM
With stacks at 100bb effective more or less I go a touch smaller with my 4b to around 25bb - although this is entirely villain dependent..

My sizings in 4b pots are usually between 20%-33% or so.. I dont like your line really as what were you trying to achieve? Unless villain is a super drooler then I'm not sure we get calls from much worse? I guess its nice you took the pot down but we can't help think to ourselves that we just folded out villains garbage when maybe a different line may have induced villain to continue with said holdings.
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05-08-2022 , 01:35 PM
I agree with the above, I would go smaller with the 4bet unless you play on GII vs a jam. AP, this feels like an overplay in my gut, as I dont think you can jam when he can have JJ and QQ so I am going to check GTOWizard.


Yeah, looking at Wizard, it is quite an overplay, as you should be basically range cbetting with TT and then never jamming vs the raise.







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05-09-2022 , 03:55 AM
I like betting 40% or so on the flop to put max pressure on overcards. Checking often takes away our chance to protect a vulnerable hand, and check-shoving makes it very difficult for worse hands to call. It does protect our hand, but so does betting. I don't see an advantage to check-shoving.

1/4 is a common sizing in 4bet pots, but deviating can make sense too.
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05-09-2022 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TRUSTtheDRAWCESS
I agree with the above, I would go smaller with the 4bet unless you play on GII vs a jam. AP, this feels like an overplay in my gut, as I dont think you can jam when he can have JJ and QQ so I am going to check GTOWizard.


Yeah, looking at Wizard, it is quite an overplay, as you should be basically range cbetting with TT and then never jamming vs the raise.







Excellent post as usual!

Quick question - whenever I see your screen shots from gtowizard, the layout doesn't match mine.. Have you altered settings?

I use the stock setup and would love to learn some new tricks with the system..
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05-10-2022 , 01:33 PM
Just cbet, imo you're only getting called when you're beat here
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05-10-2022 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Claret~N~Blue
Excellent post as usual!

Quick question - whenever I see your screen shots from gtowizard, the layout doesn't match mine.. Have you altered settings?

I use the stock setup and would love to learn some new tricks with the system..
Not OP but I just learnt yesterday that if you hover your mouse above the little down arrow next to strategy you can change it to show things like EV etc.
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05-10-2022 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tamol
Not OP but I just learnt yesterday that if you hover your mouse above the little down arrow next to strategy you can change it to show things like EV etc.
Thanks. I has play around with the settings when I first had my sub, but I'm pretty sure whatever I changed didn't replicate anything near what those screenshots show..
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