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44 set on a drawy board 44 set on a drawy board

07-22-2014 , 01:44 PM
Pacific $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2544949
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BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 51, PFR: 2, 3B: 0, AF: 1.4, Hands: 523
SB: $7.64 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 1.9, Hands: 795
[b]Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $11.46 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 3.0, Hands: 7344
MP: $18.70 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 9, 3B: 5, AF: 1.7, Hands: 70
CO: $12.27 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 8, 3B: 2, AF: 1.6, Hands: 940

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 4 4
UTG raises to $0.26, 1 fold, CO calls $0.26, BTN calls $0.26, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.16

Flop: ($1.09) 2 4 5 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.60, CO folds, BTN calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.89) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $4.20, UTG folds

Villain is a TAG, his pfr from UTG is 6. SO, his range must be something like 77+, AJs+, AQo+. I hit the set, he bets, fish calls, i decide to call to let him bet 1 more street. turn is bad for me, he could have AJs + of heart, so i decide to raise, i think i made a to big of a raise, maybe 3.50 was better.. What do you think? And if i called and another heart came on the river and he bets what was the play there?
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07-23-2014 , 02:23 AM
i donk pot this flop all day long ... as played why not raiseing flop /? is the worst spot to slowplay
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07-23-2014 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by utgboy
i donk pot this flop all day long ... as played why not raiseing flop /? is the worst spot to slowplay
all of that.
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07-23-2014 , 03:42 AM
your reason for calling flop is not good. you want to raise here for value from overpairs and straightdraws.

If you raise on the turn you are almost never getting a call from worse. FD should fold (unless its a combodraw) and you won't get value from overpairs. Only thing that (should) continue(s) are hands that beat you.
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07-23-2014 , 01:15 PM
i dnot know what to say, TAG is UTG, he raises preflop, he has only cards bigger than 2456, most definetely he hasn't a 3. There is also the calling station very big fish, now he could have anything, if i raise flop and TAG has pocket aces, i am pretty sure he would fold, i know the player, i have 7k hands with him... but there is the chance that if i raise, the fish could call me and build a bigger pot. on the turn, 6h is a bad card for me so i decide to raise, TAG player could have AhKh and he could hit the flush on the river. i decided to slowplay the flop thinking its nothing on the flop from the TAG's range and also to keep the fish in pot, on the turn i got scared and raised.
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07-23-2014 , 02:06 PM
you realize that you're bluffing on the turn, right?
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07-23-2014 , 03:42 PM
Semibluff maybe, but do you think a villain like that could have 55 or 66? i see him having a fd or an overpair.
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07-23-2014 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by C0tilli0n
if i raise flop and TAG has pocket aces, i am pretty sure he would fold, i know the player, i have 7k hands with him...
If he folds aces every time you raise the flop on this board, you need to look at your lines, as they must be grossly unbalanced.

Your best chance with this hand is to get the money in as early as possible, especially if he has aces. +1 on donking the flop. A flop raise would be the next best option.
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07-23-2014 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by C0tilli0n
Semibluff maybe, but do you think a villain like that could have 55 or 66? i see him having a fd or an overpair.
A semibluff means your opponent can fold a better hand. That isn't the case here.

fd is very unlikely
overpair is folding

all of that is moot though. not donking the flop is bad. not raising the flop is terrible.
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07-23-2014 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by C0tilli0n
Semibluff maybe, but do you think a villain like that could have 55 or 66? i see him having a fd or an overpair.
And no. A 14/10 player is not raising 55 or 66 UTG
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07-23-2014 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by C0tilli0n
Semibluff maybe, but do you think a villain like that could have 55 or 66? i see him having a fd or an overpair.
If he's got a 6% range UTG like you said he doesn't have 66 or 55. He probably only have AJ-AKhh and MAYBE KQhh for flush draws.
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