So this Sweet.kr guy, who is quite obviously some korean StarCraft player, has been giving me a lot of trouble lately. He plays 16+ tables of 6max, and I used to hammer on him a lot/come after him, but lately he has been soul owning me.

He runs around 23/21/3.

I am looking to find out if

1) I just need to stay away from this guy, he's very good, or,
2) He is running like god over the past ~month, so his confidence is soaring and he's making unusual plays, or,
3) He thinks I play so poorly that he can play loose vs me, even OOP.

Here are 2 examples:

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $400.00
Hero (BTN): $673.40
Sweet.kr: $536.00
BB: $436.00
UTG: $1223.50

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 5 K
2 folds, Hero raises to $12, Sweet.kr raises to $48, 1 fold, Hero raises to $108, Sweet.kr calls $60

Flop: ($220.00) 3 K 6 (2 players)
Sweet.kr checks, Hero bets $138, Sweet.kr calls $138

Turn: ($496.00) 2 (2 players)
Sweet.kr checks, Hero bets $427.40 all in, Sweet.kr calls $290 all in

River: ($1076.00) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)






Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $482.50
UTG: $100.00
MP: $853.90
Hero (CO): $400.00
BTN: $458.00
Sweet.kr: $844.30

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with A Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, Sweet.kr raises to $48, 1 fold, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($100.00) T 4 9 (2 players)
Sweet.kr checks, Hero bets $68, Sweet.kr calls $68

Turn: ($236.00) 2 (2 players)
Sweet.kr checks, Hero checks

River: ($236.00) 6 (2 players)
Sweet.kr bets $156, Hero calls $156

my advice is to not f with him until you have the cards, but if I think that AQ hand should of been a 4bet or fold given this guy is going to outplay you on most flops you miss.

Both hands are played fine. I mean the 4bet with K5s isn't great if he is not giving you credit, but it's probably not too bad. You played it fine postflop though. The second hand is relatively standard. Definitely can't fold the river since he can vb worse and turn marginal hands into bluffs.

If these are the hands he's been "owning" you on I think we have a very different definition of that word.

sweet.kr has a very unique version of the poker stars client that actually makes his fold button disappear once he 3bets pf.

The first hand is spewy. 4-bet bluff stacking with trash against someone who never folds post is a recipe of disaster.

Second hand folding the river is fine (or 4-betting for value if the first hand is any indication).

He can be annoying to play against, esp if you whiff every flop vs him since he never folds, but he isn't good or earning anything besides fpps.

I guess I don't quite understand this - what does never folding post-Flop have to do with 4-bet bluffing pre-Flop? I was expecting him to either fold pre-Flop, or move in on me; didn't see the ole call KTs OOP for 20% stack coming, which is why I posted the hand.

When I 4-bet bluff K4s, I'm not expecting there to be too much post-Flop play irregardless. If he does decide to call, I'm rarely putting in much more of my stack unless I flop a King or a draw, in which case I'm all in.

Haha thanks, this is pretty much what I was looking for. Someone who has experience with him that could make his play make sense to me. Ty. It's been awhile since I checked CardRunners though, is calling 4-bets OOP with KTs standard now, too? I guess it's good that he thinks I'm a maniac since I've been nitting it up against him lately.

I'm going to be a dick.

Let's say you have a calling station fish. He'll call 80% of the time on the river. Would you move allin for 1.5 pots with 83o on a K T 4 A 2 board to win the pot? No of course not, its suicide. You are having a similar problem preflop. Why on earth would you bluff an aggro calling station?

He's not folding enough to make it worth your while and your hand isn't for value, so you are losing some imaginary money everytime you do it. The corrollary to this argument is you should feel confident four betting a much larger value range.

Secondly postflop is terrible. I guess I get the flop bet, but the turn bet is godawful. He's rarely folding a better hand and he's rarely calling with a worse one. Take your 10-18 outs and hope you hit. The turn bet isn't really for value and certainly isn't a bluff.

If you think that sweet.kr is playing out of cardrunners video play book. You are going to be sadly mistaken.

Hand one is an easy fold preflop vs. sweet. You should get the fold to 3 bet stat and you'll see quickly that he almost never if ever folds to them. I haven;t played with him too much but from what I hear he doesn't exactly nit up against 4 bets and 5 bets either.

Hand 2 I think would be one of the rare times I would check flop and turn. Or call a turn bet if he leads the turn. River I would never fold vs. him

1st hand his preflop call is obviously spewy, against a player that calls 4bets that light you have to get it in post

2nd hand is practically a Bbv post

You can't 4 bet bluff korea so hand one is spew. Hand 2 I just 4 bet pre for value.

both of these hands are really bad

Well, apparently I missed the How To Play Vs. Sweet.kr FAQ.

I just came over here from FTP about 2 months ago during the bank xfer scames.

he gets it in real light pre, that's for sure

he also runs hotter than god when he does this too

you should phrase some of your questions differently. maybe like, "how do i play against someone who never folds to 3bets" rather than "how do I beat player x"

threads just bordering a little on inappropriate imo

i watch my friends gregy and bthere play him all the time. he is so lol bad. he never folds preflop once he 3 bets, so dont 4 bet bluff him ever.

Once he starts calling your 4bets with KTs oop, you gotta adjust obviously.

He makes my green line go up which I really like. Just call big hands against him and call him down after the flop. Raising the flop with a good hand is terrible vs him.

this guy sounds like he plays pretty much the same as almost every party 3/6 and 5/10 reg. in which case i like this advice best. i know it sounds really elementary and not very 2+2ey, but these guys are begging to be rope-a-doped over and over again.

are you kidding?

Well I meant more in 3bet pots, where he double barrels with his entire range. Problem with raising the flop is that I assume he folds most of his junk that he can't use to bet the turn with.

ive found that most players like this choose the "bet first, deal with the consequences later" and tend to get right back in line in rr'd pots once they encounter resistance on the flop. obv its player specific so maybe this particular player likes to just bluff shove over flop raises or whatever, but on the whole i certainly find calling down with a huge portion of my range is the best way to extract money from them.

If sweet is half as good at poker as he was in starcraft i would just fold anything less than AQ+ and make my money somewhere else. (:

you say he is a massive station but he won't call the turn in the 1st hand w/o something better than Kx, huh?

postflop play is ok in hand 1 i think