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[400NL] TPKG, villain donks all 3 streets!

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10-03-2009 , 02:55 PM

pfc_ivan12323232

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,131

Villain is Jason Suh, i have him as 19/15 and 3b of 7% over 350 hands, so pretty accurate stats. I mean what can he be doing this with?? .. This is 3rd or 4th time today that players donked all 3 streets into me when I had top pair.. I folded on the river all the times before. Should I be raising this flop maybe?

Hand in question

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $408.80
BB: $93.10
Hero (CO): $970.70
BTN: $435.70

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is CO with J

Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, SB calls $12, 1 fold

Flop: ($32.00) 8

(2 players)
SB bets $24, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($80.00) T

(2 players)
SB bets $64, Hero calls $64

River: ($208.00) 6

(2 players)
SB bets $188, Hero ??

I should also probably say that about few hands ago this happened against him, so he might be tilting:

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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UTG: $453.00
CO: $101.10
Hero (BTN): $515.10
SB: $407.60
BB: $453.70

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with 3

UTG raises to $12, 1 fold, Hero raises to $40, 2 folds, UTG calls $28

Flop: ($86.00) 3

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $48, UTG raises to $142, Hero calls $94

Turn: ($370.00) 6

(2 players)
UTG bets $271 all in, Hero calls $271

River: ($912.00) 4

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $912.00
UTG shows 8

(a flush, Eight high)
Hero shows 3

(a full house, Threes full of Fours)
Hero wins $909.00
(Rake: $3.00)

Last edited by pfc_ivan12323232; 10-03-2009 at 03:00 PM.

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10-03-2009 , 03:31 PM

markyboy86

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 638

imo villian is tilting trying to buy pot cant put him on fd or straight as hand is played too weird to hit this,he might have got lucky and hit two pair but your priced in? $188 to win $230+ no raise just flatting this

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10-03-2009 , 03:38 PM

Babalatexi

adept

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 914

Fold. Even if his donking range is wide (TJ, J9, T9, 67, 79, sets) pretty much everything got there and he's not betting the 2nd pair hands on the turn.

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10-03-2009 , 03:42 PM

Peligro!

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,578

I'd somewhat arbitrarily draw the line at AQ

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10-03-2009 , 04:49 PM

BouncinRound

adept

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,055

If he has been donking a lot then I don't think a flop raise is awful to balance. This also allows you to get the turn checked through for pot control a good bit if he calls the raise. Additionally it allows you to pressure his air w/ your air in other situations.

However, I do think against most players your line is best and I'd just call flop + turn, and likely fold river (don't know Jason or his tendencies but his pf #s seem snug).

BTW, why didn't you just 3b shove the flop on the 2nd hand before a scare card hits and you lose your market?

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10-03-2009 , 04:57 PM

digeri

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 647

Your hand is a bluff catcher, and it's actually hard to think of a hand he could be bluffing with that doesn't have a pair. I mean certainly he could be turning a pair into a bluff and you'll need to bluff catch sometimes, but QJ seems a little bit too weak for it imo especially when he might be doing this with KQ+.

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