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09-19-2009 , 02:02 PM
No clue why my hand converter wont work...maybe someone can convert this for me. Villan is playing 49% from the sb. He has an agression factor of 8. Flop Cbet of 100%. We've played 86 hands. He's most likely a fish.

Full Tilt Poker Game #14801045053: Table Wayne (heads up) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:46:55 ET - 2009/09/19
Seat 1: kylejf ($507)
Seat 2: Elfoverde ($251.50)
Elfoverde posts the small blind of $2
kylejf posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kylejf [Ac 8d]
Elfoverde has 15 seconds left to act
Elfoverde raises to $12
kylejf calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Qd 8c 2c]
kylejf checks
Elfoverde has 15 seconds left to act
Elfoverde bets $16
kylejf calls $16
*** TURN *** [Qd 8c 2c] [2d]
kylejf checks
Elfoverde has 15 seconds left to act
Elfoverde checks
*** RIVER *** [Qd 8c 2c 2d] [9h]
kylejf checks
Elfoverde bets $223.50, and is all in
kylejf has 15 seconds left to act
kylejf has requested TIME
kylejf folds
Uncalled bet of $223.50 returned to Elfoverde
Elfoverde mucks
Elfoverde wins the pot ($55.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $56 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Qd 8c 2c 2d 9h]
Seat 1: kylejf (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: Elfoverde (small blind) collected ($55.50), mucked

How can he check that turn back with anything? The only hand that make sense is JTo or JTs of hearts or spades.

Then again it seems like everytime i call these bets i get shown the nuts. I called one earlier roday on a drawheavy board he checks a street, and he ends up having top set.

thoughts on a herocall?
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09-19-2009 , 02:29 PM
snapfold against a typical weak-abc fish these are very unfrequently bluffs, and unless you have a very specific read and/or he starts doing too often for it to be the nuts all the time you just can't call. Keep in mind that the pot is still small, you have invested only a few bb and there is a good chance he will leave if you double him up.
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09-19-2009 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by StreamlineR
snapfold against a typical weak-abc fish these are very unfrequently bluffs, and unless you have a very specific read and/or he starts doing too often for it to be the nuts all the time you just can't call. Keep in mind that the pot is still small, you have invested only a few bb and there is a good chance he will leave if you double him up.
yea...thats a good point that if i call and he wins hes not posting the next blind. He wasnt a weak fish though...an agression factor of 8 is pretty high.
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09-19-2009 , 03:09 PM
mach 5 fold
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09-19-2009 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gugel
mach 5 fold
+1 (btw is this a reference to 2M2MM?)

I'm also snapmucking hands as strong as T2 here if the person doesn't have a history of random spaz shoves. This would be a truly awful call without reads.
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09-19-2009 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rbracco
+1 (btw is this a reference to 2M2MM?)

I'm also snapmucking hands as strong as T2 here if the person doesn't have a history of random spaz shoves. This would be a truly awful call without reads.
haha yea, 2m2mm reference
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