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05-30-2008 , 06:09 PM
Party Poker $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $406.00
UTG: $442.50
CO: $611.80
Hero (BTN): $981.50
SB: $699.70

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
1 fold, CO raises to $14, Hero raises to $48, 2 folds, CO calls $34

Flop: ($96.00) 9 J 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($96.00) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $102.00, Hero calls $102

River: ($300.00) 9 (2 players)
CO bets $306.00, Hero...

Villain is 50/20/2
I checked flop because I am not comfortable getting it in vs a c/r and thought itd be better to play with a free turn... not sure if thats acceptable. Villain is obviously a donk, but even so if I get it in on the flop I dont think I'm in too good shape very often.
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05-30-2008 , 06:54 PM
Given that he's 50/20/2, the easily hits his range so I understand your concern. I would still probably bet.

General question, is raising the turn bad? If he'd bet less I would certainly raise, but PSB is always little worrisome, I guess?

FWIW, I think he could even valuebet his KJ/AJ this way.
Your hand looks pretty underrepped so he could easily try to muscle you out.

Without a proper read and his range being intensily large, I would fold.
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05-30-2008 , 07:16 PM
Against this player I'd probably bet call the flop. I mean 50/20/2's boarding on a maniac. You're also never drawing dead on the flop as you have you're GS straight and backdoor flush outs.

Also if villain is shoving something like a pair+straight draw you hand acts as a bloker (don't know if this is the correct term) as you hold some of the outs he needs.

Last edited by KCrow; 05-30-2008 at 07:28 PM.
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05-30-2008 , 11:26 PM
def bet/call flop agaisnt 50/20 who raised on CO
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05-31-2008 , 12:47 AM
raise to 240-250 on the turn and evaluate. Those stats incline me to call the river as played though feels like a bluff maybe aj at best.
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05-31-2008 , 01:16 AM
I'm stacking off the flop.

As played you obv gotta call river. You might maybe raise the last bit in, not sure.
He's playing bluffs like that, top pair, etc
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05-31-2008 , 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clashes
Flop: ($96.00) 9 J 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

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