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400NL: AA - Fishy player donks potsize dry flop, check-minraises turn. Turn & River play? 400NL: AA - Fishy player donks potsize dry flop, check-minraises turn. Turn & River play?

03-28-2011 , 01:28 PM
Villain is a fishy player on more on the passive side. He limps almost every button, checks down frequently. OOP 3bets 20% of the time and calls 60%.

On the flop he folds a lot - 60% of the time to my cbet. Its the first time he donkbets potsize bet on the flop. Also havent seen him check-raise before.

Whats our turn play? If we call, what we do on the blankish river if he checks or bets? If we call turn and fold river, then what river we fold?


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Hero (BTN/SB): $496.90
BB: $474.30

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN/SB with A A
Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) 7 J 3 (2 players)
BB bets $24, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($72.00) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $56, BB raises to $112, Hero ???
400NL: AA - Fishy player donks potsize dry flop, check-minraises turn. Turn & River play? Quote
03-28-2011 , 01:33 PM
Usually fish min raises tend to be strong but in this case his line doesnt make a ton of sense and I guess he can do this with Jx if hes really fishy. Super weird spot but I'm not folding and probably not folding any river. So call call
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03-28-2011 , 01:44 PM
call call
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03-28-2011 , 01:57 PM
But if he checks? Then we bet and how much?
400NL: AA - Fishy player donks potsize dry flop, check-minraises turn. Turn & River play? Quote
03-28-2011 , 02:11 PM
2/3 pot
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03-29-2011 , 09:39 PM
I think u r not good there. U will have beter spot to take his money if he is so passive. Dont think he is doing like that as a bluff and to with a J. imo

Do smb like raising the flop but folding if he shoves?
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03-30-2011 , 06:53 AM
It's a wierd line obv, I just cant see the logic behind him donking off a psb if he's super strong here. My fist thought is that he's trying to take down the pot with some Jx hand that he doesn't wanna call with OOP, but at the same time his c/r doesn't really smell very Jx so idk, but folding this is hard.

And also, i'm not folding to a shove 118bb's deep if raising flop.
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03-30-2011 , 10:40 AM
thats really weird...definately not folding the turn ,might fold to a huge overbet otr
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03-30-2011 , 12:26 PM
Eh given the way the hand played out I think AA is no good here most of the time.

A fish like him probably donks two pair almost 90%+ here, or worse, he's taking that line with a set (pretty std. fish line with a set IMO. bets flop for value, gets afraid youll shut down on the turn, sees you bet, decides to go for more value...)

Given how passive you say he's been playing, I strongly consider folding.

Chances are he's not shutting down on the river after c/r the turn, and you're stacking off on the river.

A super passive fishy player finally seems to wake up with a hand. I say believe him and get his money somewhere else.
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03-30-2011 , 01:55 PM
call call- line makes no sense, im Never folding an overpair to a fish that takes this line.
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03-31-2011 , 08:24 AM
He sounds passive enough that I fold.
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04-03-2011 , 05:18 AM
Call turn and call up to around half pot on river. Anything over that I would give a passive fish the benefit of a doubt of having a monster unless there were some special history.
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