I don't really play too much HU; usually just table starting and tables breaking. All comments on all streets are appreciated. Thanks.


I don't recall having ever played villain HU before and we are only a few hands into this. Over about 500 hands at 6 max villain plays about: 23.4/17.5 with a 3bet of 6; Flop C-Bet = 73.6%. I don't know how much 6 max stats will be relevant here.


The blinds are 2/4, no antes.

SB: $522 (130.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $579.06 (144.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 T
SB raises to $9.50, Hero calls $5.50

Flop: ($19) 6 8 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $12, Hero raises to $41, SB calls $29

Turn: ($101) T (2 players)
Hero bets $81, SB raises to $270, Hero ???

If you cbet TP you kinda should have an idea of what you're doing and how villain potentially will react

Ship

Well, first of all, I did not c-bet (generally understood c-bet flop definition).

Second of all, I understand your general point that I should plan what I am doing and I would add that I should I be better at poker than I am. However, I am not.

Plz tell me u didn't fold. So if u bet turn after raising flop u didn't cbet ? lol

you can turn this any way you want to make me look like a clueless douchebag but this just isnt a spot where you're gonna end up being right

Jam/call decision comes down to the strength of BTN's semibluffs -- if they are mostly gutters, call, and if a bunch of them are FDs, shove.

Post in SSNL or MSNL if you want an atrocious discussion about whether to 3-bet preflop (it's an option), in the mold of this abomination.

Preflop is 3bet or fold.

Are you being serious or trolling or misread.

Absolutely not close to what I was trying to do. I wanted your opinion on how to play the hand. But saying basically "if I bet I should know what I am doing and know what to do when I get raised" is of course not helpful nor is it even advice. I have seen this type of response many times over the years and I never understood what the point of it was. Obviously I did something after I got raised; maybe I knew what that something was going to be before I bet. What I would like to know is whether you think that something was the best way to play, but I don't want to tell you what the something is because I don't want to bias responses.

Id reraise his preflop bet to 100 dollars hes got lot of drawing hands preflop like ace king and nine eight i want to beef up the pot becuse hes gonna miss the flop 2 thirds of the time with those hands and i wnat to win the max when he does. youre playing weak pussy poker with that call turn your hand faceup he knows u have a suited connector might as well tranfer ur entire bank roll. id put you on T7 or 98 or J8 and ur never gonna win the pot with a straight or a flush. when he raises u on the turn and u turned your hand faceup how u think ur gonna win? with a pair of tens? u think ur tom dwan playing for an entire buy in with a pair of tens? fold and cut your loses

Oops, wrong account.

Gotta ship PF imo. Tons of fold equity.

Lol wtf material

Ok, I don't understand what is happening in this thread.

This thread has probably the best igopoopy post, under his sn "tobecontinue". He had solid ones here too as "comeonman".

Withholding your thoughts didn't help. There was a lot more room for diagnosing flaws in your reasoning than for commenting on the actual decision, which is pretty simple.

For example, you could have said something like, "I didn't see how calling could be best, because I don't want to be put into a scenario where I have to make a call/fold decision unimproved on the river", and someone could have said "Well, that can't be a real problem -- the lower bound of EV_call is comfortably above zero even if you check/fold every single time you don't hit a straight or a flush, and will be higher than that of EV_jam unless you have like 40% equity when you get it in".

This. So shove.

Stacks make this very awkward - if you had less money this would be an easier shove.

One good thing about our hand is I don't think we can possibly be drawing dead lol.

I don't think you can make a huge mistake by jamming. Folding is pretty weak but fine vs some players who just don't semi bluff.

I'm probably not folding here -


pre flop call is fine

Not crazy about preflop, but obviously not a huge deal to be calling with this hand some % of the time.

Flop seems fine, although I'd prefer to go a little closer to pot ($50 or so) being 130bb deep on this board texture.

Not sure about the sizing of the turn bet here, don't know exactly what we're accomplishing with a 4/5 pot bet. We obviously want him to stay in with all his 87, 65, A8 type hands and we're probably never folding out a better hand regardless of bet sizing. His turn raise is pretty weird here given the flop line. I'd expect 2 pair/sets/flopped straight to be getting it in on the flop here almost every time, and this is basically never a dry bluff, so I think his range is heavily weighted towards turned 2 pair/straight (T8 and 79 being most likely). Overcards w/ flush draw are also possible depending on the opponent and the dynamics or maybe the occasional overpair that just decides to get it in now. Without doing the math I think you probably have enough equity vs that range to get it in here but it's probably close.

fun fact: we're 50/50 vs 86

We're 50/50 vrs his entire range

We're 50/50 against this range:

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

396 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 6:spade:8:heart:4:heart:T:club:

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
Th7h	50.00%	198	0
86,PE:AN:UT:BU:TT:ER:AN:D:JE:LL:Y:SA:ND:WI:CH	50.00%	198	0

if you dont want a biased opinion then delete the hh prior to you betting the turn so that douchebags like me wouldnt get caught up on the fact that you bet and have no idea what to do next
even if he only called turn im pretty sure u'd still post this hand asking what to do on literally any river