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4 flush board, Q high flush, value??

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01-18-2012 , 03:19 PM

peachnuts

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 149

Entraction - €0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: €4.67
SB: €3.66
BB: €5.67 huge fish, 33/58/24 WTSD 52 WoSD 45, Af1
UTG: €0.90
MP: €4.27
Hero (CO): €4.52

SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

Pre Flop: (€0.06) Hero has Q

UTG calls €0.04, fold, Hero raises to €0.20, fold, fold, BB raises to €0.36, fold, Hero calls €0.16

Flop: (€0.78, 2 players) 9

BB bets €0.39, Hero calls €0.39

Turn: (€1.56, 2 players) 8

BB bets €0.72, Hero calls €0.72

River: (€3.00, 2 players) Q

BB checks, Hero???

Spoiler:

if I had A

that is easy valuebet, but what about Q

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Is there a valuebet on the river with Q

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1) against this 58/24 guy?
2) against 20/18 reg ?
3) against 8/6 nit?

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01-18-2012 , 03:23 PM

Sdawg

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 27

At nl4 against fish this is an obious v-bet imo. People at these stakes tend to call with worse flushes and sets. I think I would bet-fold

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01-18-2012 , 03:56 PM

vinaorezende

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 343

Bet 2.00 on the river. In my opinion he would call any heart, so it would be a high value bet.

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01-18-2012 , 05:11 PM

mattepatte

adept

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 852

Check river imo, yeah at calling with worse hearts, but what worse hearts does he have? Do he 3-bet KxJh? He is a fish but that doesn't mean he 3-bet ****ty hands oop.
Fishes can even c/c with Kh here and crai with Ah.

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01-18-2012 , 05:26 PM

pitapita

Lia Marie Johnson

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 7,089

Bet 2.5. He's a huge fish and can call with any heart. Against a reg bet 1 since he might call that with a straight or set. Against a nit check because he doesn't have many lower flushes and he could fold them. But you'll never be in this spot since you won't get minraised by decent players and facing a bigger 3bet you can fold.

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01-18-2012 , 05:32 PM

Back off Kiddo

banned

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,346

Yes value bet, he's probably betting higher flush himself. Get it in pre vs. this jerk off btw

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01-18-2012 , 05:43 PM

Big Jon 21

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 822

Is it worth taking this hand to the river? I mostly play FR and I am noticing that my preferred lines in several spots are nittier than most regs on this forum. I feel like this is not the best board to float but given the sizing I don't think I could ever fold. What if villain cbet larger? Do we still float flop?

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