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10-04-2009 , 09:36 PM
Hi, I'm a 5ptBB 25NL 6max player and I just started playing live on the weekends.

I have a question regarding squeezing and 3betting. In 6max, we 3bet suited connectors in position to isolate/narrow down range and make our hand easier to play. We also get paid off a lot more because our range is disguised. Do we do the same in full ring games?

E.g., MP raises to 15 PF and after 2 callers I squeeze with $50 3bet with T9s on the button. Is this profitable? On the one hand, I can cbet an Axx Kxx flop and take it down if I get called with TT-QQ or flop a nice combo draw and see a free card. On the other hand, with 4 callers in the pot my implied odds are much greater, assuming decent stack sizes, of course.
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10-04-2009 , 10:24 PM
This might work online, but in 1/2 live this is generally a -EV move IMHO because you tend to get called down by far weaker hands live. For instance, you might get called down by A9 preflop, and if the board came A-high, you might get called down the whole way.

Moves like this generally don't start to become profitable until you get to 5/10nl or maybe a weekday 2/5 game
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10-05-2009 , 12:19 AM
people playing live tend to have "jackpot" mentality. they see a pot could be getting large, so they call, because who wants to miss the party?

dont try FPS squeezes and junk playing live, esp 1/2NL. Play straight forward, keep pot sizes small preflop with smaller hands, and VB VB VB
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10-05-2009 , 12:26 PM
There's $47 in the pot before you "squeeze" to $50. Everyone is getting about 3:1 to call and lots of them will. As mentioned above, people don't fold TPNK hands in 1/2 or even SP on the flop.

Finally, 1/2 players may be for the most part bad with the math portion of the game, but there's usually a couple keen observers who will notice that you're 3betting far more often than you could reasonably be getting AA and KK. They will try to pick you off.
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10-05-2009 , 12:49 PM
why would you waste a great spot for 9/10 soooted on the button in a multiway pot, and a chance to win a big pot, by squeezing? You have the ideal situation for your hand. I don't squeeze or 3bet for anything but value when I play live, there is no point, people don't understand pot odds or imlpied odds in at 1/2nl so why bother trying to outplay them, just valuetown them.
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