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11-24-2007 , 03:11 PM
35/11/1.3 ~ 150 hands Seen him pull this w/2 pair+, sets, etc.

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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Hero (SB): $405.25
BB: $386.30
UTG: $510.60
BTN: $703.21

Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, BTN raises to $14, Hero raises to $46, BB folds, BTN calls $32

Flop: ($96) 8 7 J (2 Players)
Hero bets $60, BTN raises to $120

16/12/3 ~400 hands. Never seem him go out of line. Seen him do this with hands that would beat me.


Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (UTG): $455.50
CO: $358
BTN: $715
SB: $485.96
BB: $237.39

Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $16, CO folds, BTN raises to $58, 2 folds, Hero calls $42

Flop: ($122) 3 T 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $88, Hero calls $88

Turn: ($298) 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $310
3bet situations with overpairs + a read Quote
11-24-2007 , 03:25 PM
Sounds like neither guy has made these plays and been out of line. If that's the case, you should visit foldtown.
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11-24-2007 , 03:34 PM
fold both hands!
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11-24-2007 , 03:49 PM
I kinda think we should fold JJ preflop. Maybe just don't tell anyone you did.

I guess fold hand 1 though i'm not happy about it. Sometimes they show up w/ something dumb like AJ or KJ.
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11-24-2007 , 08:17 PM
Raise more PF in hand 1. I guess we have to fold flop now that you bet... sucks though. And fold hand 2. Don't fold PF.
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11-24-2007 , 08:34 PM
hand 2 is a fold you are like never good here against these guys and you are only getting like 2-1

Hand 1 is obviously a lot closer, and my decision would depend more on immediate history, my default is push but I repop a ton against players like this...
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11-24-2007 , 08:48 PM
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hand 2 is a fold you are like never good here against these guys and you are only getting like 2-1

Hand 1 is obviously a lot closer, and my decision would depend more on immediate history, my default is push but I repop a ton against players like this...
yea this is how i feel about both. my standard would definitely be to shove in hand 1 though just because the board is so drawy.


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I kinda think we should fold JJ preflop. Maybe just don't tell anyone you did.
?!?!?!?!
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11-24-2007 , 08:51 PM
Is there any chance he wants to discourage you from betting the turn in hand 1? I'd probably call and fold turn UI. Is calling here a leak?

Second hand, without a reason to think I have the best hand, I fold.
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11-24-2007 , 11:12 PM
1 push and its not nearly as close as kaufman said. Toronto must be [censored] with his head.

Hand 2 is ez fold.
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11-24-2007 , 11:17 PM
hand 2: is the consensus for a fold on the flop or turn?
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11-25-2007 , 12:44 AM
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1 push and its not nearly as close as kaufman said. Toronto must be [censored] with his head.

Hand 2 is ez fold.
Yup Jordan's right, I think the guys aggression factor and the earlier results skewed my thinking as to how close it was. Also reraise a bit more OOP
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