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3bet Shove 100BB Deep Preflop. NL10. is this a losing call?

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01-02-2010 , 07:14 PM

Viva La Crayon

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Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $14.30
MP: $10.00
Hero (CO): $10.40
BTN: $10.65
SB: $12.40
BB: $16.70

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with K

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, SB raises to $12.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $10 all in

Had just sat down so had no stats on villain. Considering this isn't a 4/4 nit over time is this a losing call in the long run?

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01-02-2010 , 07:15 PM

ugotbicked

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Easy call.

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01-02-2010 , 07:17 PM

jacove

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

143,833,536 games 0.238 secs 604,342,588 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.038% 33.65% 06.39% 48395820 9192330.00 { AKs }
Hand 1: 59.962% 53.57% 06.39% 77053056 9192330.00 { JJ+, AKs }

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you have about 40% on the tightest range. if u think the general shoving range at this limit is less than JJ+ aks+ then u have better equity. can't be to bad to call however.

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01-02-2010 , 07:17 PM

Viva La Crayon

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This only applicable for NL10 and below?

And i really need to start using PokerStove myself. Will answer most of my questions >.<

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01-02-2010 , 07:18 PM

fattony7891

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Originally Posted by ugotbicked

Easy call.

how?

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01-02-2010 , 07:20 PM

ugotbicked

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People never have AA/KK here.

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01-02-2010 , 07:38 PM

Lunatic2333

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love it when this happens, ez game.

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01-02-2010 , 08:03 PM

Valleygoat

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Originally Posted by fattony7891

how?

cause no one shoves AA/KK like this...
and even if they do, no where near more than like 5% of the time.
At worst we're flipping here, at best we are crushing them.

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01-02-2010 , 08:12 PM

Stackajawea

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it's never a bad call.. it depends on what kind of fish they are(50/5 or 48/22). Think him being 2 seats to your left makes this more of a call as well given the positional advantage he might have if he stays fullstacked and to your left.

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01-02-2010 , 08:26 PM

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fattony7891

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Originally Posted by Valleygoat

cause no one shoves AA/KK like this...
and even if they do, no where near more than like 5% of the time.
At worst we're flipping here, at best we are crushing them.

yea I thought the OP said he is a 4/4 nit. Esp as this is first few hands at the table he can do this with lots of ******ed stuff.

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01-03-2010 , 09:24 AM

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gguk2008

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People saying that players never do this are actually saying that players shouldn't shove with AA/KK like that. From recent memory, it's happened a handful of times and twice they showed up with KK.

I still call for the majority of times that they have less than KK.

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