just wanted to say a big ty to internet, who's reasoned explanations i find almost always interesting. as played its very villain dependant i think m8, v some of them i deffo lead, but then my image is v different from yours.

I agree with Internet and would consider 3-betting KQo, KJo, QJo, JTo, AJo, ATo and similar hands given positions to be a good play. Firstly because of pure fold equity given how strong it looks, second because they hold blockers to him having many "nut" hands.

The argument of them being dominated end ending up with you losing a big pot or losing a small one fails for a few reasons: I would expect him to fold or 4-bet the majority of the time preflop. If he calls his range is fairly well defined (hands like 88-QQ, AQs/AQo, then maybe AK and some occasional slowplays, all depending on dynamics and things not mentioned in OP), so we don't run the risk of value stacking ourselves just because we flop a pair, and we have good opportunity to bluff on many boards. So 3-betting these types of hands here seem relatively standard/fine given that it should be more profitable than folding them (and calling them shouldn't be profitable).

yeah I already corrected myself ITT

yeah I think Internet has changed my mind. Thanks

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I came late but I think 3b is fine pre. People are usually 4betting or folding in his spot and if he does flat its prob like TT or 99 or something so actually your hand has alot more equity than a suited connector.

Do you guys mind answering these?

v decent opponent we can deffo c/c flop with sets some of the time to strengthen our c/c range v villains that handread conventionally and fight hard for 3b pots, probably with KdK/AdA sometimes also.

i dont get the second part, donkbetting in 3b pots with a marginal hand is unusual.

The discution between Internet and $M4it remainded me of an old thread by Jman where he asked which of these hands would you rather have when your 3bet is called and your ip: A2s, 88, 57s and KJo.
Those who included beeing oop in their replies clearly favored KJo.
Given that our 3bet is called much more often when we're oop, this part of the thread was the one i found most valuable.