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lol..... nice reply

there are just way too many 'OMG CALLCALLCALL' replies and 'WHAT WERE YOU HOPING FOR?'. what was he hoping for? i dunno, a reasonably good board and to get allin by the turn?

the board on the river is awful and hero's hand is really not all that underrepped. i think the correct decision is to fold. i don't think it's easy and i would not begrudge someone calling, but in my mind this is a million miles from 'lolzor you have the aces and tarped him!!!'.

Totally agree with you on that yeti, though I do agree with the general consensus that i should have just 4bet this preflop and was guilty of being to fancy.

I like making a small CR on the flop given that he's Cbet with 3 people in the pot and is likely to have a hand.

reasons to 4bet here:
1. he 3bets only 5% of the time
2. your oop
3. he could bluff shove over it if he does happen to be bluffing, or
4. he could flat with the badish part of his range in pos
5. he will shove with a huge% of his 3betting range
6. not to mention hes sitting with a million bbs

obviously you have to balance your range and flat there sometimes i guess if your gonna be flatting at all which i dont like but this isnt a good spot for it imo

its a really bad board tbh i think that a raise on the flop could be good say to 250-280 that way if he has jj or 10s you really put the pressure on him if he does have aq and kk go i think that you called here for range balencing and deception for the same reasons i raise flop as on a board that dry your really not repping that much and youd like to be about to do that as a bluff.

another small point is i think that if you call here some of the time for meta game or what ever thats fine.

FWIW really agree with yeti i think he has a set a ton here and its a fold as played.

if you gonna play your hand so passively CALALALLALALALLALALALALALAL

Hero's perceived range is alot of medium pocket pairs (many of which are sets) and maybe AQ. Villain knows this and shoves river.

edit: Just felt that this might not be clear to some of you.

FWIW I think the river is a fold. I didn't include that in my post because the error in this hand is really not in whether or not you call river, its in your disastrous pf decision and logic.

Basically I think from your posts you're probably the type of dude who plays 19/14 and likes to slowplay hands in spots that make it very obvious you have a monster, like this. I think villain knows exactly what you have and is shoving for value.

Are you really playing at these stakes cauz you played the hand bad!

No hes not. He invented a hand with random stats.

Who is this guy.

Just make it 140 pre, it's small enough that he'll think it can easily be a bluff. It feels like so many times people read hands and don't read the action clearly. Just think what range you put people on when they flat a 3bet oop with 100bbs, to me their range is pretty strong. This board is also great for that perceived range and villain still jams. The fact that villain plays higher coupled with the fact that he has an enormous stack at this table (indicating that he's up) he seems very capable of bluffing here, along with some worse hands shoving for value like KK and maybe AQ although I don't know what he'd be hoping you call with.

I think you can go either way, and in those spots until I have more info on a player's tendencies I'll call, mainly to get info on villain's range and odds are the call will be marginally EV either way.

Afraid your pretty far off with that. I play 26/21/3 with a 3bet of 9%. Im a pretty decent winner in the games. I just happened to have bad leak in my game which has now be addressed. I had been occasionally slow playing AA here to balance with the times i might have 10/10 or JJ. Clearly now i realise my way of thinking in these scenarios was off. I didnt need to balance for the times i had 10/10 or j/j because i should be 4betting these preflop anyway

Fair enough. So what did he show?