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3BB/100 winner at 10nl. Disgusted at myself. Poker coaches around? 3BB/100 winner at 10nl. Disgusted at myself. Poker coaches around?

02-18-2010 , 12:33 PM
Hi folks, I'll keep it short and sweet. I'm a 3BB/100 winner at 10nl over 15k hands and I think that's terrible. I am 100% sure that I have a gazillion leaks somewhere but I can't spot them. I know I'm capable of winning more and right now I don't think it's safe to take a shot at 25nl even the roll says I can.

Anyone can help? I'm not comfortable revealing my sn but my stats are 15/10 (31/27 from the button and super nitty elsewhere).

Help!

- Sad and depressed
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02-18-2010 , 12:38 PM
There's nothing like poker to make you feel bad for winning.

Buck up son! You're a winner! This is how its done:

1. Take the shot at 25nl
2. Lose
3. Move down and rebuild
4. complain about not being able to beat 25nl and get a coach.

So take the shot at 25, then bump this thread. You think you're a loser when you're winning? Talk about MUBS!
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02-18-2010 , 12:41 PM
How many tables do you play?

Have you ever had a sweat session? If you do, maybe have the sweater not say anything about your play or give you any advice until after the session.

I really hate 10nl and I can't beat it.
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02-18-2010 , 12:41 PM
Lol I love your style!

Anyhoo I just realized I'm a 25/14 from SB. Big leak?
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02-18-2010 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
How many tables do you play?

Have you ever had a sweat session? If you do, maybe have the sweater not say anything about your play or give you any advice until after the session.

I really hate 10nl and I can't beat it.
4 tables most of the time. 2 every now and then. Yeah I did a sweat session once when I first started 2nl but I never did one at 10nl. I'll sign up for next months sweat thread me thinks.
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02-18-2010 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blackchilli
Lol I love your style!

Anyhoo I just realized I'm a 25/14 from SB. Big leak?
Probably. Post your 10NL stats in the graphs and stat threads and the stat junkies among us will probably be able to point out your more glaring leaks.

Also, +1 to what everyone else said. Um, you are doing better than like a vast majority of the people at your limit.

+1 mirrion to McAvoy. 10NL is rigged
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02-18-2010 , 12:47 PM
PM Sent, all of your problems will be fixed shortly

Freaking out over 15K hands is a little premature IMO, but it's always good to be mindful of your play and analyzing it
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02-18-2010 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blackchilli
Lol I love your style!

Anyhoo I just realized I'm a 25/14 from SB. Big leak?
It depends . . .

If you are playing on generally tight tables, you might get enough folds to Hijack/CO/BU to play a wide range from the SB profitably at this limit, particularly when they limp around to you. I've only been playing 10NL for the last few days, so maybe I'm on a heater, but I am winning in that position playing similar stats. Seems like at this limit there are still enough people who limp late-position hands that you can steal from the SB a lot more than at 25NL.
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02-18-2010 , 01:12 PM
I wish I was a 3BB/100 winner atm.
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02-18-2010 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by blackchilli
Hi folks, I'll keep it short and sweet. I'm a 3BB/100 winner at 10nl over 15k hands

my stats are 15/10 (31/27 from the button and super nitty elsewhere).
Would you mind sending me your stats ?

Judging from your previous posts (aka "putting regs in there place") I'd say you're playing to lose from the button and getting into too many marginal spots.
A winrate of 3BB/100 isn't all that bad, but you can certainly achieve more. Especially when you're only playing 4 tables. Perhaps you're simply bluffing too much, or not 3betting / squeezing enough ?
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02-18-2010 , 01:19 PM
Being a 3BB/100 winner is good. You need to give up the idea that you are going to beat poker for 10-20 ptBB/100 like people can at 2nl.

If you google "Leakfinder" and "Poker" you'll be directed to a place where you can get some coaching by trusted names. I suspect Springsteen has already given that to you, though.
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02-18-2010 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGeorge5
Would you mind sending me your stats ?

Judging from your previous posts (aka "putting regs in there place") I'd say you're playing to lose from the button and getting into too many marginal spots.
A winrate of 3BB/100 isn't all that bad, but you can certainly achieve more. Especially when you're only playing 4 tables. Perhaps you're simply bluffing too much, or not 3betting / squeezing enough ?
Yeah my button is my most profitable spot of course. I'm bleeding a lot of dough from SB. Check your pm.

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Originally Posted by venice10
Being a 3BB/100 winner is good. You need to give up the idea that you are going to beat poker for 10-20 ptBB/100 like people can at 2nl.

If you google "Leakfinder" and "Poker" you'll be directed to a place where you can get some coaching by trusted names. I suspect Springsteen has already given that to you, though.
Hehe, yeah.
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02-18-2010 , 01:32 PM
Perhaps post some more detailed stats in the stat thread (or perhaps in here) I don't think your VPIP and PFR alone will tell us all that much.
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02-18-2010 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by blackchilli
Lol I love your style!

Anyhoo I just realized I'm a 25/14 from SB. Big leak?
Most likely that is a leak. What is your WR for the SB? It's tempting to complete in the SB but you shouldn't be completing much as you are in the worst position possible for the rest of the hand. Since you play so few tables (I play 4), are you taking time to table select? Look for tables where there is a nit or two on your left, then when it's folded to you start PFR ATC from BTN and SB. I would tighten up your limping range from the SB if you are looking to move up to 25nl as at that level you're putting in more than half a big blind to complete.

Garon
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02-18-2010 , 01:39 PM
Table selection is key. Since the raised min BI at full tilt, I pretty much have my choice of juicy fish. In fact, I leave a table if the average table VPIP is running below 25.
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02-18-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Being a 3BB/100 winner is good. You need to give up the idea that you are going to beat poker for 10-20 ptBB/100 like people can at 2nl.
Being a 3BB/100 winner at NL10 while playing 4 tables is not good, let's face it...

It's good though that OP tries to improve.
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02-18-2010 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by xxMaquiladoraxx
+1 mirrion to McAvoy. 10NL is rigged
Hear, hear. I'm currently ahead, but only barely. Annoying.
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02-18-2010 , 02:13 PM
3 BB/100 or 3 ptbb/100?
I never could beat 10NL. 25NL is easier imo.
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02-18-2010 , 02:15 PM
Seriously??
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02-18-2010 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AnAnonymousCoward
Seriously??
no, result orientedness itt
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02-18-2010 , 02:49 PM
First of all 15k hands is an absolutely meaningless sample size in terms of looking at your winrate, all that says is that there is a 90% chance that your true winrate is anywhere between -2.4BB/100 and +8.4BB/100, see how accurate your sample is? 15k hands is an ok sample to see if you're a winner, not to see what your winrate is.

Secondly, 3BB/100 is a GREAT winrate, especially for a beginner.

And its interesting that some people here say that nl25 I easier than nl10 because Ive heard 6max players say this also. And if you go and check out the players per flop % you will see that it is higher at nl25 than at nl10, so I guess at the very least nl10 is nittier.
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02-18-2010 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AnAnonymousCoward
Seriously??
Basically, ever other level is hard. 10NL is hard, 25NL is easy, 50NL is hard, 100NL is easy, 200NL is hard. Never played past 200NL, but I'd assume 400NL is pretty easy.
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02-18-2010 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by luka allen
3 BB/100 or 3 ptbb/100?
I never could beat 10NL. 25NL is easier imo.
3BB/100 = 3ptbb/100

so yeah, both. Or 6bb/100.

Anyway I'll try playing 400nl. Should be easier!
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02-18-2010 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexB182
Being a 3BB/100 winner at NL10 while playing 4 tables is not good, let's face it...

It's good though that OP tries to improve.
Oh and this. I really think this is a problem. My winrate isn't good enough frankly.
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02-18-2010 , 04:15 PM
You are a winner, firstly this is good although imho id play way more hands then decide, as u may in fact not be a winner, or hopefully you are a winner but one of the lucky ones that crush their said limit.

Ok thats my input, in a nutshell- more hands will give u a much better idea of where your at. good luck op
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