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03-21-2018 , 12:18 AM

amtonic

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 169

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $58 (116 bb)
Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $94.46 (188.9 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
MP: $103.21 (206.4 bb)
CO: $51.85 (103.7 bb) (17/11/8)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, Hero raises to $5, BB folds, CO calls $3.75, BTN calls $3.75

Flop: ($15.50) 3

(3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $8, Hero raises to $45 and is all-in, CO raises to $46.85 and is all-in, BTN folds

Turn: ($113.50) 5

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($113.50) K

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

As played? Bet flop or check-fold?

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03-21-2018 , 12:24 AM

CrazyAndy27s

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 970

I wouldn’t be squeezing A4s against this type of player.

Just xc flop as played and reevaluate turn, I’m not sure why you shoved.

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03-21-2018 , 12:40 AM

amtonic

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 169

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Originally Posted by CrazyAndy27s

I wouldn’t be squeezing A4s against this type of player.

Just xc flop as played and reevaluate turn, I’m not sure why you shoved.

I think as value vs KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 54s, 99-JJ, and maybe all 77-55 with 1 spade (32 combo's +/-)
and losing vs 33 & 88 en AQ, AT-AQs (30 combo's)

and we have some fold equity?

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03-21-2018 , 01:14 AM

.isolated

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

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Originally Posted by CrazyAndy27s

Just xc flop as played and reevaluate turn, I’m not sure why you shoved.

^^^

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03-21-2018 , 01:15 AM

AltoZZ

adept

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 796

c/r is just bad here.
x/c AP.

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03-21-2018 , 04:07 AM

TheKingCobain

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 316

c/c flop , with c/jam he only calls with better

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03-21-2018 , 08:02 AM

CrazyAndy27s

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17/11 is pretty tight in my eyes so he’s not going to have as many hands that he can bluff post. He’s also going to be bluffing a lot less multiway on an ace high board, I don’t think we have as much fold equity as you think we do.

Besides, we’ve got plenty of semi bluffs, maybe even 88, AA. If you’ve played this combo like this preflop, you’ll probably also have A8s and A3s.

I’d say you need to be tighter and more merged against this villain preflop though, suited wheels aren’t going to make you money against him.

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03-21-2018 , 09:00 AM

NoSurprises

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,869

Think you need to have a look at 3bet bluffing in more detail and which opponents to do this against. Whilst it isn't a horrendous mistake, when called you are in all sorts of bother on ace high boards and need great post flop skills to play these marginal hands OOP in bloated pots.

XC flop and decide turn.

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03-21-2018 , 10:29 AM

CrazyAndy27s

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What do you guys think about suited aces in general? I tend to find that they don’t do too well on my database at the micros.

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03-21-2018 , 08:29 PM

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amtonic

centurion

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Originally Posted by CrazyAndy27s

What do you guys think about suited aces in general? I tend to find that they don’t do too well on my database at the micros.

depents on how you play them i guess. If they fit well in your range and you have a decent strategy involving the suited Ax hands you should be able to profit from them in my opinion. But i think the way i played this hand could be -ev so i'm going to chance this

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