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(30sng) two shoving situations (30sng) two shoving situations

08-01-2008 , 04:16 AM
hand 1

2nd round 4 plyer sng, he raised first hand to 480 pre, second hand 3bet me to 440. This is third hand.

Poker Stars, $30 + $1.50 NL Hold'em Tournament, 20/40 Blinds, 2 Players
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Hero (BB): 2,840
SB: 3,160

Pre-Flop: (60) K J dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to 480, Hero raises to 2,840 and is All-In, SB calls 2,360

hand2
I cant find HH on this hand.

But i had K/8s, early on stacks about the same 1600-1400. I raise normal 3bb he calls. Flop 99K i continuation bet 140 on 200 pot and he shoves. Do i call?

I had no significant read on him, he was fish according to sharkscope, the one with aquarium.
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08-01-2008 , 04:40 AM
Hand 1 is definitely gambool, but it's tough to be really far behind, and you're ahead a decent percentage of the time. 3 hands probably isn't enough that I'd go with KJ, because as stupid as it sounds, if he's doing this every hand, you're going to get a better opportunity long before you lose too many chips to fight back from. And there is some possibility he just picked up three good hands in a row, or wanted to set a precedent on the first hand, and is trying to get you to put chips in loose on the second and third tries.

Hand 2, you're likely to get raised a fair amount on that board, no matter what villain actually has. If you're not prepared to call, then you should check behind. (and checking behind is not horrible IMO, there's a flush draw and some gutshots, but it's the sort of board where you have no clue where you're at if you get raised, and it's tough to get value from many hands.)

On the other hand, a shove is more likely to be *something* as opposed to complete air, where something can really only be flush draws, kings, 9s, pocket pairs, and sometimes junk they were "trapping" with preflop like AT-AQ. I'd probably call because you're ahead a lot of the time, and most of the time that you're behind, you probably have a decent number of outs to a chop. (against KQ, you have 7 outs to chop, 11 against KJ, and 15 against KT)
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