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30NL folding to a single 3b w AKo OOP 230bb deep? 30NL folding to a single 3b w AKo OOP 230bb deep?

05-19-2012 , 08:10 AM
(30NL!)
    Boss, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12923732

    BTN: $397 (198.5 bb)
    Hero (CO): $457.99 (229 bb)
    BB: $605.30 (302.7 bb)
    MP1: $433.59 (216.8 bb)
    MP2: $194 (97 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K A
    MP1 calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, BB raises to $30, 2 folds




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    Vill: 41/15/1.9AF 2.4 3b
    I was: 31/24/4.8AF 7.1 3b


    So my question is basicly, is this a standard fold with AKo PF? I am OOP and 230bb deep and vs a passive villain with only 2.4 3b.
    I cant possibly call this OOP this deep it would be suicidal, so the question is whether to 4b or not. If i was IP with this hand i would probably call i dont know if that even is a good idea..

    I think this is a pretty easy laydown but in similar spots when OOP this deep i have problems, say i have QQ, if i 4b and this passive villain 5bets i have to fold.

    Now how should i play this hand if villain had a 6% 3b?


    This spot is a little unclear for me how to proceed, any thoughts are nice to hear
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    05-19-2012 , 08:59 AM
    how did you get 30nl from a 1/2 hand? anyway, vs most villains flatting the original raise is more +ev than 3betting, but vs a guy with his stats the 3bet is good

    this deep, out of position, vs this particular villain, in this spot, i think folding>flatting>5betting
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    05-19-2012 , 10:23 AM
    The money is not $ it is swedish SEK and 1$=7SEK. So the stakes equals to 30NL.

    And yeah i agree with u that folding is best, but against a V like this guys but say he has 7 3b how do we adjust?
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    05-19-2012 , 10:30 AM
    flatting is not bad
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    05-19-2012 , 10:31 AM
    vs 7% 3bet you may call and play postflop.
    but folding is fine as well.

    7% is not that much.
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    05-19-2012 , 10:42 AM
    He's BTN*?

    would like to know hand sample. He could be value 3betting with AQ etc. but without more info it's ok to fold imo. If you 4bet you're never good and playing guessing game OOP is no fun
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    05-19-2012 , 12:04 PM
    Passive villain with 2.4 3B is a pretty horrible spot. I would probably just call and just call down with a good piece but folding might be best.

    Does anyone see merit to a 4B/fold? Deep enough to not be committed / the nut blocking hand?
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    05-19-2012 , 12:25 PM
    Prolly flatting cuz were so deep and going from there. Not looking to put tons of money in the pot on future streets if villain is showing lots of aggression.
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    05-19-2012 , 01:11 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Back off Kiddo
    He's BTN*?

    would like to know hand sample. He could be value 3betting with AQ etc. but without more info it's ok to fold imo. If you 4bet you're never good and playing guessing game OOP is no fun
    I had around 70hands or something, don't know why i forgot to write that down.

    But yeah its really hard to call this OOP imo, because we will so often just go x/f when we miss and he cbets. I don't know really..


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by qazikm2000
    Prolly flatting cuz were so deep and going from there. Not looking to put tons of money in the pot on future streets if villain is showing lots of aggression.
    Yeah but the fact that we are deep, shouldnt that just make it worse to flat here? I mean we will pretty much have to x/f or go like x/c OTF and x/f ott all the time when we call this.
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    05-19-2012 , 02:03 PM
    flatting OOP to hit Kx/Ax and being unsure if we're ahead is pretty spewy imo.

    So is 4bet/calling / 4bet/folding vs a 2% 3bet range
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    05-19-2012 , 04:55 PM
    I'd call the 3bet and check/fold if I missed the flop.
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    05-19-2012 , 05:30 PM
    ebvos trol es ebvis
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    05-19-2012 , 05:55 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Back off Kiddo
    flatting OOP to hit Kx/Ax and being unsure if we're ahead is pretty spewy imo.

    So is 4bet/calling / 4bet/folding vs a 2% 3bet range
    .
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