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11-08-2017 , 03:48 AM

EVmonopolist

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Villain is 46/24/0 over 110 hands. No specific reads.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 113.5 BB
SB: 167 BB
BB: 160 BB
Hero (UTG): 111.5 BB
MP: 137.5 BB
CO: 117 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 5

Hero bets 4.5 BB, MP raises to 134.5 BB and is all-in, Hero

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11-08-2017 , 03:55 AM

haqpod

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Get it all in, you have nut flush draw and 2 overs, really a lot of outs. Worst is that he has a set, and you still have plenty of equity against that. Best case he has a worse flush draw and we are crushing him. Next time post your thoughts about the hand and your decision.

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11-08-2017 , 04:03 AM

EVmonopolist

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Originally Posted by haqpod

Next time post your thoughts about the hand and your decision.

The exact reason why I posted this hand. I don't know what to think about this hand.

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11-08-2017 , 04:04 AM

YouBetIcall

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for me, unless I have some specific reads and I'v seen him playing crazy, easy fold

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11-08-2017 , 04:18 AM

Rikk

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I call. V looks fishy and when they take dumb lines like this I assume they have a fair amount of spew as well as any value they have, which we have bags of equity against.

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11-08-2017 , 04:27 AM

SharkytheFish

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Does villain spaz out like this with a set? At this level most opponents will slow play a set otf. In addition a set of queens is unlikely without a 3bet pre. The decision rests on how many outs you can give yourself as you aren't getting the right price to hit a flush. I don't think you can give yourself 6 additional outs for the remaining aces and kings.

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11-08-2017 , 06:11 AM

Risso

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We have basically nothing invested and without a read I would fold. I used to snapcall in this spots, since we have FD+2overs and it thought to myself: "I should easily have atleast 50% equtiy... Call..." sure there was some spew in there from villains, but more often than not there was set/2pair waiting for me..

Also, there no dead money in the pot. For me at least callin is -EV...

For you who is calling in this spot, do you snapcall with AA&KK aswell?

Last edited by Risso; 11-08-2017 at 06:21 AM. Reason: adding a question..

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11-08-2017 , 08:59 AM

mrno1324

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Check flop or bet smaller, call the shove

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11-08-2017 , 10:05 AM

Rikk

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Originally Posted by Risso

For you who is calling in this spot, do you snapcall with AA&KK aswell?

Not without a read, but it's a completely different scenario. Here we have decent equity against ANYTHING. When V does have the awfully played set we have 9 outs, and when he's spewing he's drawing close to dead.

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11-08-2017 , 11:05 AM

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StackedYouSon

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Not really awesome but I'm not folding here. Too much raw equity to be folding against almost anything villain does this with. It would take a really really good read for me to wanna lay this down.

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11-08-2017 , 08:56 PM

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Feng Shui

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With so little invested i fold. His range feels like some sets as MP's calling range will contain all the pp's from this villain. And it wouldn't surprise me to see a slow played AA KK take this line from time to time either . You probably have just about the correct equity but it's going to be such a marginal spot that i'm unsure id want to be putting in another 104bb.

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11-08-2017 , 09:32 PM

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simplelessons

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I dont think we have 2 overs here that often. V has to be spazzing with qj for that to be true. More often than not we have 3 overs or none with our fd. We are either flipping or pretty far behind most of the time. I just lay it down.

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11-08-2017 , 10:13 PM

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Evoxgsr96

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You need 50% equity to call (maybe less like 45% idk)... say at best he has 33/55/53s/Q5s etc. now throw in some Qx and hands we beat in there.

Also villain looks like a fish and "fun player" so expect to see 67h/47h/K3h or stuff like that which we are ahead of and will def be a +EV call, imo it's not even close with this hand pretty easy snap.

Spots like these don't come up frequently but you have to know what a "fun players" range is gonna look like and it could be a spazz with KTo sometimes who knows and that alone is enough to make it a call in these spots.

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