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2NL - River TPTK in a checked pot..weeeird. 2NL - River TPTK in a checked pot..weeeird.

09-14-2010 , 03:02 PM
I think its a kinda standard raise from me here with AJ..and gets one caller to the flop. Flop check /check and turn check/check ...on the river i get TPTK and i think i should bet for value here.

All of a sudden the villain reraises me and i start to go back in the hand but i dont find any reasonable hand that motivats his play.....do you? What should i´ve done? Any other leaky things in this hand?? Give me some help..

Full Tilt - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $2.13
UTG: $1.96
UTG+1: $0.96
MP: $2.00
MP+1: $1.08
Hero (LP): $2.20
CO: $3.59
BTN: $3.13
SB: $2.00

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J A

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.23, 2 players) 4 5 5
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.23, 2 players) T
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.23, 2 players) J
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.12, UTG+1 raises to $0.26, Hero ???
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09-14-2010 , 03:46 PM
You can make a crying call here. He is giving you really good odds to try and bluff catch, though you are very rearly good. Look at it this way, you are calling 14 to win 61 so you only need to be right about 1:4.5 times and I have found calling river bets to be about a 1 in 3 win rate according to my "win when called river bet" stat over my last 50k hands.
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09-14-2010 , 03:49 PM
Just reraise him. There isnt a single hand beating you that makes sense. 100% that he folds to reraise.
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09-14-2010 , 05:29 PM
no hand makes sense, but he has a 5 and is slowplaying.
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09-14-2010 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mtagliaf
no hand makes sense, but he has a 5 and is slowplaying.
Actually, he had a full house with pocket 4´s and i made the call on the river.
I dont know if that was just stupid to call a river reraise with just TPTK.
The hand was just so weird all the way, that i never really did put him om a flopped full house.

I tought that any person with a normal intelligence should bet any street for value with a full house, but i guess im the stupid one here that payed him off. He actually extracted more value out of his hand than if he just would have bet out on the turn or river....

But what´s shall a decent ABC standard line be here? I´ve read that if you get reraised on the turn you should almost never get in in with worse than a set...Couldn´t "this rule" also fit in on the river play?

Its so sick. Im just feeling lost sometimes in how to play poker....these fishes makes me insane..
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09-14-2010 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by vittoleon
Just reraise him. There isnt a single hand beating you that makes sense. 100% that he folds to reraise.
This post makes no sense.
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09-14-2010 , 06:16 PM
He played his hand terrible. bad luck.
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09-14-2010 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JimBraddock
But what´s shall a decent ABC standard line be here? I´ve read that if you get reraised on the turn you should almost never get in in with worse than a set...Couldn´t "this rule" also fit in on the river play?
It could fit, but then again it might not. Good players know about "this rule" and will put you to the test with one pair. Your HUD and reads often help you figure it out. Sometimes they won't - your opponent will trick you, and you get to tip your cap and move onto the next hand.

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Originally Posted by JimBraddock
Its so sick. Im just feeling lost sometimes in how to play poker....these fishes makes me insane..
I wouldn't worry too much about losing 1/3 of a stack to a full house. His slowplay and minraise on the river is awful - take comfort in the fact that this guy flopped a monster and didn't even get half a stack for it.

You should be grateful that the turn and river weren't both jacks, then you might have shoved over his minraise and lost 100 BB instead of 40-ish.

What would have been most epic is if the river was a blank and you checked behind with ace high.
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