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2NL: QQ on board with tons of draws 2NL: QQ on board with tons of draws

11-09-2015 , 03:23 PM
$0.01/$0.02 Blinds No Limit Holdem

BTN: $1.48
SB: $2.48
BB: $0.48
Hero (UTG): $1.68
MP: $1.93
HJ: $0.75
CO: $2.16

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, CO calls $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, SB calls $0.05, BB folds

Flop: ($0.25) 7 6 4 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.19, CO folds, BTN calls $0.19, SB folds

Turn: ($0.61) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.44, BTN calls $0.44

River: ($1.44) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.79 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.79

I think I misplayed this pretty badly.

On the flop, I think I'm supposed to cbet big to punish draws, but I don't know how the fact that 3 hearts are already down and the flush could already be made should affect my thinking.

On the turn when the straight comes in, I fired again because I didn't want him to be able to bluff the straight, but that seems like a huge mistake. Should I check? Bet smaller so I can fold to a raise?

By the river I'd already realized that I messed up, and figured either he has a flush/straight or he doesn't, and he won't call if he doesn't. Might as well give him a chance to bluff.
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11-10-2015 , 05:14 AM
Think you played it fine actually. Loads of A and K combo's are calling F&T so valuebet for sure. Those combo's could bluff R so I don't mind a c/c here vs. a 1/2 pot bet. I also think sets/straights/babyflushes raise you on the F or T a fair amount so 3:1 is a pretty good price OTR. Shoving the R yourself is probably too thin.

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I fired again because I didn't want him to be able to bluff the straight
This is flawed thinking. He would be valuebetting a straight, not bluffing. And betting because you don't want villain to bluff is kinda strange, don't you think so?
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11-10-2015 , 05:35 AM
First, set auto-top off on yada yada yada

BTN is clearly a fish, who is going to have all kinds of suited junk and low cards in his BTN calling range. I think river is an easy fold for numerous reasons:
1. Fish is going all-in on the river
2. Fish has tons of hands that beat you in his range
3. Not the kind of board we want to play a big pot with. Remember big pots need big hands

QQ is a much "bigger" hand on a board like JcTs7d5c3s. Here, we have a paired board with straight/flush draws that got there.

Flop is played well.

The turn brings a terrible card for us and I think I'd be less inclined to bet the turn, but whatever. I think its more opponent dependent than anything.

River is an in-between card, it gives us a lot of better 2pairs, but also can improve a lot of his hands as well. I really don't think anyone would go all-in here with a weak 2pair, but perhaps I'm wrong. As previously stated, I'm folding (sigh folding that is).
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11-10-2015 , 11:57 AM
Okay cool, thanks for the help. He ended up having the nut flush. It seems like he saw my large cbet on the flop and figured I would do all his betting for him. Let's say the runout was a little better:

7 6 4 J 2

Should I bet big every street, and if he has the flush, then well-played by him not to reveal it with a raise? Or should I slow down at some point with either a check or smaller bet?
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