Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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UTG: $5.01
CO: $2.18
BTN: $4.28
SB: $4.78
Hero (BB): $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, UTG calls $0.08, BTN calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.31) 3 6 6 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.24, UTG calls $0.24, BTN calls $0.24

Turn: ($1.03) 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.60, UTG calls $0.60, BTN folds

River: ($2.23) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.70, Hero ?

I think i need a COTW on laying down QQ+.. anyway, whats the right play here gentleman?

First hand of the night, no read.

I wouldn't lead the turn vs two people. River is an easy fold as played.

Try thinking of your hand as a five card hand from the flop forward. Yes, your hole cards are nice but you have to consider the relative strength. That turn card completed a lot of draws, not to mention you were already losing to a random 6. Having the Qs helps and if this was heads up I think b/f the turn would be ok, but leading into two is dangerous and you create an even bigger pot with a hand that doesn't hold up to heat (like the river bomb he lobs.)

Thanks.. in heads up b/f turn, and b/f river? or c/f river?

I think heads up a default line of b/f turn c/f most rivers is OK. I haven't exactly played 2NL though, so betting a lot of rivers might be a good move, 250 BB stacks is wacky to think about.

Betting the turn OOP with a nice card for any FD/OESD isn't warranted here. Considering your hole cards are nice for an OP on a very low board, it isn't beating much considering the action thus far.

What is Villain calling with after your turn bet? A7? Does he have an OP as well? Both are unlikely. The river is an easy fold given the paired 3. Did you call..?

Yes, I suck I fall in love with my top pairs and can't let them go. I need to learn how. He had 6's full. His hole cards were 67o though, so he had twopair at the turn

Ugh.

He had his boat on the turn. He flopped trips and slow played you, the 7 was just gravy.

I almost want to eliminate QQs from EP/blinds play, I am just unconfident on the correct plays.

Take a look at this -- was the call on the river a leak? I think it was, but I also thought on a totally checked pot he could've just had a pair and was trying to get the pot.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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UTG: $2.93
UTG+1: $2.53
UTG+2: $2.88
MP1: $2.07
Hero (MP2): $5.04
CO: $3.00
BTN: $5.64
SB: $1.95
BB: $0.98

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with Q Q
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.33) 7 6 8 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.33) 3 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($0.33) T (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.25, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $0.25

Anyway.. it seemed like he was going to let me check it down and then suddenly sprung into action on the river. Should I have bet the turn? He could have been slow playing his straight already..

Like I said before I don't have 2NL exp but I like PF and flop, I would bet out the turn after it checks through and not expect to be raised often. If you got action on the turn I'd probably c/f that river but c/c most others.

thanks, fume. Getting better (slowly)

I really think he would've had the same line with A10 or something like that.. so i hope it wasnt an awfully leaky call

No I don't mind the river call.

why did you not cbet flop? its extremely wet sure, but were you going to c/f it? c/c flop and c/f turn? c/r flop? just very odd imo

Apparently I'm getting a lot of QQ's practice here. One more to look at please, if you have the heart.
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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SB: $5.03
BB: $1.00
UTG: $2.90
UTG+1: $2.45
Hero (UTG+2): $4.37
MP1: $0.43
MP2: $5.80
CO: $0.73
BTN: $2.71

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG+2 with Q Q
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.33) 4 5 T (3 players)
UTG bets $0.08, Hero raises to $0.32, BTN folds, UTG calls $0.24

Turn: ($0.97) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

River: ($1.57) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Bet the river? Get more value? I'm getting QQ's here again on a very drawy board but villan was 18/3 and called my PFR so I really couldn't put him on 78 right.. especially not UTG

Crap I should've bet the river.

At 2nl if you hav an overpair bet bet bet

I have to keep in mind the straight possibilities no? Not just robo-bet because board < hole cards

In this case the 6 didn't complete many draws and it would be very strange for him to lead out with 78 on the flop like he did. Bet at least .5 on the turn maybe more like .75 and bet that river as well, he'll call with worse a lot.

18/3 open limp could be anything from AJ to 78s, but probably a sooted ace (ATs? A5s?) or fail setmine 77-99. he would've raised the turn with anything you don't beat, or bet hard on the river. IMO river is standard thin to medium value

I wouldnt bet the first hand on the turn, especially into 2 people. The turn card completes a lot of draws (45, 2 spades etc).

The 2nd hand is just because of your previous experiences with queens. I had a thing similar with KK when i started playing but you have to ignore that and just bet as you normally would.

The 3rd hand i like the raise of the donk bet, build the pot, but i hate the bet on the turn. Why bet 1/3? what does it achieve? You price in any draw and chase away no hands. And bet the river for value.

Thanks for this. With reference to the 3rd hand:

Thinking out loud.. I guess I misunderstand the point here. If i'm value betting I want to induce worse hands to call -- not run away so I can steal their moneys. But if the guy did come out with 78 I'm not going to chase him away anyway. So my concern here is FDs?


Edit: so 9 outs out of 46 is like 1 to 5.. so i need to bet to make the pot give him worse odds than that? So I bet something like half the pot (50c) and that gives him 1 in 3 odds..