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2NL: Interesting Spot with AA? 2NL: Interesting Spot with AA?

11-02-2009 , 06:21 AM
Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+1: $1.98
UTG+2: $1.66
MP1: $0.68
MP2: $0.19
CO: $1.95
BTN: $0.76
SB: $0.98
Hero (BB): $8.58
UTG: $0.77

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A A
UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 raises to $0.08, UTG+2 calls $0.08, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, UTG calls $0.33, UTG+1 calls $0.27, UTG+2 calls $0.27

Flop: ($1.41) Q T 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $1.63 all in, UTG+2 calls $1.31 all in, Hero?

I'm thinking that I should I have lead out on the flop...When there's a raise all in and a caller, I'm thinking my aces are beat possibly by a set or two pair? I folded after some thought, what was the correct play as played assuming there are no reads/hand history between the three involved.


Thanks
2NL: Interesting Spot with AA? Quote
11-02-2009 , 06:37 AM
Given their stack sizes, pot size, unknown history, no further agression before the flop... I would lead out the flop. Also, because this is 2NL I would make an overbet of 2 dollars to cover both of he short stacks. If they both call and there is a set/two pair out there, then its a cooler and it doesnt matter much.

As played, I really dont know because I try not to put myself into these sort of spots. When I do, occasionally, I try to use hand reading as much as I can to arrive at the decision, however with no history it would be a close decision. Most likely I'd shove and hope they are just your average 2NL players that stack off with TPGK.
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11-02-2009 , 06:42 AM
1 dollar bet and double fist pump call their raise/shove

it´s nl2 where TPTK is considered the nuts vs most of all villains.

The PFR could have KK, JJ, AQ, AJ, AK, QQ, TT, etc. here
The pre caller fare more

Board: Qc Ts 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.045% 49.95% 01.09% 922882 20201.83 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 21.619% 20.41% 01.21% 377033 22382.83 { TT+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand 2: 27.336% 27.09% 00.25% 500435 4603.33 { TT, 66, AQs, ATs, KQs, KTs, QTs+, AQo, ATo, KQo, KTo, QTo+ }
2NL: Interesting Spot with AA? Quote
11-02-2009 , 06:46 AM
hmm yeah, after thinking about the hand, I should have lead out on the flop.
As played, I'm thinking that calling was the right play. Gave them too much credit for a hand I guess...

Thanks for the responses guys
2NL: Interesting Spot with AA? Quote
11-02-2009 , 01:02 PM
The biggest exploitable habit of unknown 2nl players is their propensity to call too much, so leading out is best imo.

As played, I fist-pump snapcall this. You're not always winning, but imo you're way ahead.
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11-02-2009 , 02:19 PM
I don't think a call is so obvious here.
facing one guys I would say yes. But if you face two opponents one of them has probably better than TPTK.
A fold here is not such a big error. And you'll avoid variance.
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11-02-2009 , 02:23 PM
While one of them probably has TPTK beat here, you only need to win in this spot about 25% of the time to make it a profitable call. This board hits is going to give a lot of playres pairs or gut shots, making this an easy call at 2NL.
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11-02-2009 , 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stranglylucid
While one of them probably has TPTK beat here, you only need to win in this spot about 25% of the time to make it a profitable call. This board hits is going to give a lot of playres pairs or gut shots, making this an easy call at 2NL.
That's what I meant to say.
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11-02-2009 , 03:35 PM
There's no way we're folding given the pot size. I prefer to just ship the flop, but if you have a read that checking will induce a shove from hands that'd fold to your shove, then this play is better.
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11-02-2009 , 06:17 PM
With 3 stations in the hand, just remember...

"Never go broke one one pair"
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11-02-2009 , 06:19 PM
Never go broke with one pair doesn't apply very well at 2NL. Or, more correctly, you are going to miss a ton of value at 2NL if you are folding a ton of one pair hands.
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