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02-08-2010 , 09:00 PM

Below Zero

adept

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 848

Villian: 39/4/0.9 over 98 hands

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+1: $1.07
UTG+2: $2.08
MP1: $2.00
MP2: $3.82
CO: $3.27
BTN: $3.71
SB: $0.88
Hero (BB): $2.27
UTG: $2.94

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with K

4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.04, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, MP2 raises to $0.24, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.49) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.50

Hero?

So Villian min raises PF and once I see a fish do that I auto 3bet with AK in the blinds. He min 4bets me. Is this an auto call out of position?

I check with TPTK, and he bets pot. Do I peel one? Not sure what my line should be.

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02-08-2010 , 09:04 PM

OoLethaLoO

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Shove flop. Or call and shove turn. Folding to the 4bet pre is ok, but lol at calling the 4bet then c/f at any point when you hit, if he has AA, oh well.

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02-08-2010 , 10:27 PM

PokerRon247

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Originally Posted by OoLethaLoO

Shove flop. Or call and shove turn. Folding to the 4bet pre is ok, but lol at calling the 4bet then c/f at any point when you hit, if he has AA, oh well.

I'm not saying that I disagree with the lines you suggest, and this isn't a personal attack on this post, but I just really hate the argument that "if he has you beat then it's a cooler" without any real discussion about ranges. What are you putting a passive player on when he min4bets preflop then bets pot on a K high flop?

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02-08-2010 , 10:34 PM

padmore_barnes

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 102

i would bet the flop

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02-08-2010 , 10:36 PM

Below Zero

adept

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Originally Posted by padmore_barnes

i would bet the flop

How much would you bet?

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02-08-2010 , 10:39 PM

padmore_barnes

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 102

i would donk .30, if he raises im c/c the rest.

if i had to guess he has the same cards as you in his hand

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02-08-2010 , 10:40 PM

OoLethaLoO

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Originally Posted by PokerRon247

I understand completely what you are saying and you are right, villain prob has us beat here, but then why call the 4bet pre? What I'm saying is hero set up his own cooler by calling the 4bet pre. you just can't call a 4bet then c/f when you hit, that's just like saying "well I called pre to see what happened, now I hit the flop and if you check it means you have like QQ so I'm good, but if you bet it means you really did have AA so damn, guess I gotta fold now"

Either you don't get any value when you outflop, or you get stacked by AA. I guess what I'm getting at is that flatting 4bets with AK is a losing proposition.

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02-08-2010 , 10:53 PM

padmore_barnes

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 102

agree

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