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2NL-2nd nut flush on paired board vs overbet shove from fish 2NL-2nd nut flush on paired board vs overbet shove from fish

07-09-2009 , 04:05 AM
Ok so here's the hand:

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $2.73
CO: $2.31
BTN: $3.44
SB: $1.72
Hero (BB): $2.22
UTG: $3.51

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 4 K
3 folds, BTN calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.06) 2 2 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.06) 3 (3 players)
SB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, BTN folds, SB raises to $1.70 all in, Hero?

Only had 9 hands but 55.56 vp / 33 pfr / 1.5 af (his win at sd was 0 with went to sd at 66.7)

[My image is pretty TAG...prob doesn't matter though]


Spoiler = my thoughts
Spoiler:

I know the odds here are horrible but villain seemed pretty fishy (LP) from what I had seen - had played 5s2c with AsJsKs on board called flop, turn (6c) and river bet (5d), all decently sized, without hitting flush after pfr of 3x bb [other guy had AhQs].

So it was pretty hard to put him on a hand in my position, but I was guessing he had similar to the last hand. When he min bet the turn I was thinking either he was slowplaying a fh, trips, flush or maybe even overcards. He would have likely raised pre if he had an overpair or overcards maybe. If he had 77 he prob would have raised as well (figured he wasnt that fishy) but 33 is still on the table. As is Ax of spades and 27 or 23.

So he is beating me with Ax spades, 77, 33, 27, 23 all of which are possible but 77 unlikely. I'm beating him if he tried to get fancy with a big pair (doubt it), any other 2 or any weaker flush.

I know the odds here are horrible but this could be a great opportunity to take money from a fish overplaying a flush, a non fh 2 or an over pair.

On the other hand, the odds suck and I could be drawing dead already...


I know its only 2NL so I shouldn't be worrying so much but...

What would you do?

Thanks

Last edited by krazyhead00; 07-09-2009 at 04:13 AM.
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07-09-2009 , 04:09 AM
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $2.73
CO: $2.31
BTN: $3.44
SB: $1.72
Hero (BB): $2.22
UTG: $3.51

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with 4 K
3 folds, BTN calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.06) 2 2 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.06) 3 (3 players)
SB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, BTN folds, SB raises to $1.70 all in
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07-09-2009 , 04:48 AM
Hero calls
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07-09-2009 , 05:38 AM
Definetly fistpump call. He is terrible enought to make this play with 2x type of hands and lower flushes (and probably even worse, something odd like slowplayed KK with K of spades).
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07-09-2009 , 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GenericP
(and probably even worse, something odd like slowplayed KK with K of spades).
Hero had king of spades,

i would call this too.
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07-09-2009 , 08:46 AM
True. Still meant overpair with a spade. Doesn't make a whole lot of an difference.
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07-09-2009 , 05:18 PM
Ok thanks for commenting everyone - When it happened I requested time and literally at 1 second left I decided to call hoping he was misplaying a lower flush or 2x (without a fh).

In the end:

Spoiler:
River was an 8 of hearts and I did win the hand, villian showed 26o for a poorly played set of 2s. It felt good to make the right call in this situation, but because it was so close (in my mind at least - I'm such a nit...) I wanted to post on here to see what others thought and if it would be +ev in the long run - so thanks again everyone =)
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