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01-28-2011 , 07:29 AM
BTN is 17/10 in 700 hands, a rather passive player postflop. SB is a 90/8 mega fish in 54 hands who called a turn bet with 5 high no draw in a limp pot in a previous hand. How would you play the turn?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($5.08)
BB ($30.98)
Hero ($38.19)
CO ($26.59)
BTN ($31.59)

Dealt to Hero Q K

Hero raises to $1, fold, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.90, fold

FLOP ($3.25) K 9 2

SB checks, Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2, SB folds

TURN ($7.25) K 9 2 Q

Hero bets $5, BTN raises to $13, Hero ???
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01-28-2011 , 07:34 AM
any reads on how he plays monsters/what his turn raising range is after 700 hands?
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01-28-2011 , 09:50 AM
If this is a regular, then I think you are beat most of the time. Looks like he's raising to get stacks in on river. Hard to fold top two though.
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01-28-2011 , 09:53 AM
Fold.
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01-28-2011 , 10:43 AM
Sigh, fold. Some more info would be nice but tbh if a passive 17/10 is raising you here it's a set/straight always (he might call with a gutshot with the mega whale left to act on the flop I guess?). Anyway it seems unlikely he's have Q9/K9.
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01-28-2011 , 10:51 AM
A read on the Fish would be good. What's his af on each street? Some guys love to raise turns w. a very wide range but act passive on other streets and vice versa.
But from his vpip/pfr stats this guy looks rather passive. And if those huge whales start to move you better have the nuts. I would fold.
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01-28-2011 , 10:53 AM
Oops misread the hand. Thought the fish raised. But I still think fold.
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01-28-2011 , 11:36 AM
In this hand, SB is same 17/10 villian in question. No showdown here but I'm pretty sure he got me beat on the river. More comments will be really appreciated.

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($25.21)
BB ($25)
UTG ($51.43)
UTG+1 ($25)
Hero ($50.06)
BTN ($37.07)

Dealt to Hero Q J

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

FLOP ($2.25) Q 7 J

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.75

TURN ($7.50) Q 7 J 5

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $5.75, SB calls $5.75, BB calls $5.75

RIVER ($24.75) Q 7 J 5 9

SB bets $16.96 (AI), BB folds, Hero folds

SB wins $23.54
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01-28-2011 , 12:16 PM
fold to cb, fold to turn cb, and start looking for reads about how he plays his draws and your life against this guy will become 10x easier. Maybe you should pull him up in HEM and see if he went to showdown on any draws and make some notes.

A lot of my regs are noted with thigs like

"plays his draws aggresively leading all streets then gives up after not hitting" o
or
"c/c NFD flop and turn, then donk AI river after hitting" etc....

useful no?

As played if hes really that tight hes not getting pot odds to make that turn call but he could be doing it because its a multiway pot and it seems the other guys is coming along for the ride....i really dont see any other hand hes doing this with besides a straight or pure bluff. Spot is kinda nasty though.
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01-28-2011 , 12:24 PM
Agg% street by street would be nice as well as fold to flop/turn cbet. He reps KT pretty well, is he calling a lot of opens in the SB?

+1 on the notes thing xn2x said, I've been trying to make my notes more useful recently.
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01-28-2011 , 12:45 PM
villian has very few K9 Q9 (if any) in his range. And you can't even be sure he raises the turn with them

He has sets pretty often and straight is also possible. I muck it pretty quick
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