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25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn 25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn

07-03-2009 , 02:31 PM
Villain is 28/13 over 42 hands and has 8% 3bet. No reads

As it is I think my PF 3bet was too small but as it stands it doesnt really matter, turn is an obvious fold but what im trying to figure out is:

1) Would it always be a fold,
2) What if Villan put in a small 3bet. Would that be a fold?
3) What type of villan (if any) would be a call?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($33.35)
BB ($33.65)
UTG ($24.65)
CO ($25.35)
BTN ($3.20)

Dealt to Hero TT

UTG raises to $1, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1,

FLOP ($6) 945

Hero bets $4, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4,

TURN ($18) 9453

Hero bets $5, BB raises to $27.65 (AI), Hero Folds?
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote
07-03-2009 , 02:34 PM
Do you think your pf raise is too small for TT, considering the board seems aggressive enough to have two callers? Other than that I don't really see what you could have changed as there were 3 people in the hand with you acting first which is an obv bad spot. Tough luck op
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote
07-03-2009 , 02:41 PM
Personally I won't 3bet TT, as I don't think many UTG raisers will call your 3bet oop without a better hand.

When he flats, it seems a lot like he has AQ+, JJ, or maybe a lower pair because you gave him great odds to setmine. Leading the flop is fine, as you could easily have the best hand still, and you don't want an overcard peeling on the turn and putting you in a tough spot.

As played I fold.

I think c/f is probably better than b/f on the turn. People tend to be really honest in 3bet pots, and I don't think he'd bet at the pot without a set or better overpair, especially as it's multiway.
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote
07-03-2009 , 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PenaltyMan
Do you think your pf raise is too small for TT, considering the board seems aggressive enough to have two callers?
Quote:
Personally I won't 3bet TT, as I don't think many UTG raisers will call your 3bet oop without a better hand.

When he flats, it seems a lot like he has AQ+, JJ, or maybe a lower pair because you gave him great odds to setmine. Leading the flop is fine, as you could easily have the best hand still, and you don't want an overcard peeling on the turn and putting you in a tough spot.

As played I fold.

I think c/f is probably better than b/f on the turn. People tend to be really honest in 3bet pots, and I don't think he'd bet at the pot without a set or better overpair, especially as it's multiway.
So say you call instead of 3betting. Do you donk, CC, or CR the Flop?

Are we always giving up on a turn bet?

Thanks for the posts btw
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote
07-03-2009 , 03:33 PM
Either just flat pre or 3-bet bigger. c/f the turn.
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote
07-03-2009 , 03:40 PM
On the turn he's showing huge strength, could just be shoving with AKd for the overcards and draw, might be trying to protect a set from any straight/flush draw too, or could have overpair trying to protect the same way. I say it's a good fold unless you put him on the draw. You still don't know what the 3rd guy is gonna do as well so it hurts but I think fold on turn is best.

Just one donk's opinion.
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote
07-03-2009 , 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PenaltyMan
On the turn he's showing huge strength, could just be shoving with AKd for the overcards and draw, might be trying to protect a set from any straight/flush draw too, or could have overpair trying to protect the same way. I say it's a good fold unless you put him on the draw. You still don't know what the 3rd guy is gonna do as well so it hurts but I think fold on turn is best.

Just one donk's opinion.
Thanks I agree, no question about the turn now, im just thinking about how to play the flop in general..

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($33.35)
BB ($33.65)
UTG ($24.65)
CO ($25.35)
BTN ($3.20)

Dealt to Hero TT

UTG raises to $1, fold, fold, Hero Calls $.90, BB calls $.75

FLOP ($6) 945

Hero? Donk, CC, CR?
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote
07-03-2009 , 04:10 PM
If you don't 3bet preflop, c/c flop and b/f turn seems best.
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote
07-03-2009 , 04:34 PM
I wouldn't barrel turn after getting multiple callers otf, if I did barrel I would not bet an inducing amount
25nl: TT on Low board OOP. CR'd on Turn Quote

      
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