Really lost on how to play this hand. Villian was about 15/9 and seemed fairly solid. 3 bet on flop looks like it wanted to be called. Was the raise wrong on the flop? Should I have just folded on the flop after the 3 bet? None of my three options seemed particularly appealing at that point.



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Hero (CO): $24.40
BTN: $25.00
SB: $46.10
BB: $29.70
UTG: $38.15
UTG+1: $5.95
MP1: $25.75
MP2: $5.55

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with T T
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $1, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.85) 7 7 4 (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($22.85) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $12, Hero folds

Your raise on the flop is fine to see where you are in the hand. BB's raise is weak, but it's hard to pin him down after his OOP cbet into you. I'd probably be thinking that he got a lucky flop.

Not sure why you would call BB's raise on the turn, then fold to the bet that was sure to come after a blank on the river.

seems okay to me. I'd like to hear what others say about this as i find myself in this position often and am not sure of what to do.

The only thing that a 15/9 solid player limp/calls preflop is pocket pairs. I think that the only potential hands that you are ahead of on the flop are 88 and 99, and I would have a really hard time believing that a solid player donk/min3bet's those two hands. I used to take the line that you did all of the time, and the reason I don't like calling and re-evaluating on the turn is because if you know in advance that you will fold to a turn bet, there is no point in calling the flop 3bet because villain is always barreling the turn. You need to decide on the flop whether or not you are going with the hand, and depending on that decision you should either be folding, or just calling and shoving over a turn bet. Since I think that the latter is a spew, I fold the flop.

Pre-flop, I think the interesting thing to note is that BB is not closing the action, so if he's making a deceptive flat with a high over-pair, he's doing it at the risk of MP2 coming along, and he's doing it out of position. I believe this helps us put his range at something mostly featuring 22-JJ based on preflop action.

A donkbet from a solid 15/9 is a somewhat strange thing. Maybe he's multi-tabling and forgot who the pfr was by the time the table came around. ;>

Ugh, this isn't a fun spot. Villain very likely has a pocket pair, but we do too -- and it's a pretty decent one vs. his range. I think I like treating this as wa/wb and calling the donkbet, with the plan of calling/betting turn, and calling/value betting river. Shouldn't let the pot get too big unless he check/raises us. If a high card or flush card comes and he checks, maybe we can try to rep it. (Yeah that will tell a convincing story ;>)

I think the raise is fine, but the only reasonable reaction to his re-raise is to commit or fold imo. He's announcing that he's playing for stacks, and it looks like it's a game of who has the bigger pair. (worst pun ever). A draw doesn't make sense, as he'd raise more.

My initial impulse was to shove if you decide to commit, but, actually, I guess if you decide to get it in, a shove doesn't really fold out anything that beats you. Therefore, calling the re-raise, then calling/shoving the turn probably works better to get his stack in the middle and to get him to bluff-spew if he's so inclined.

As far as deciding if to commit or not, you need to look at pot odds once you decide to commit (pretend you just shove all in at the point of commitment, and that's how often you need to be ahead basically). He can't be that solid if he's stacking off this light with 88 or 99, so perhaps he has reason to think you're not so solid. I don't know what the right answer is, but if you sort it all out definitively, let me know. :>

Make your decision on the flop whether your ahead of villains range or not and play accordingly. When villain mini-3bets the flop its fold or go time. Too many crappy cards can come on the turn for you to be leaving money behind and you only have two outs so you're not drawing to anything. The only hands you ahead of here are 88 and 99. Your flipping with something like AKclubs. I would prolly only shove if I had seen villain play his flush draws like this. The mini raise smells of 'please call' though.

i see myself a lot in these situations too: preflop raise it in position with middle pair 88-1010, villain limpcalls, flop comes and makes me an smallish overpair, villain donk bets (small/big), i raise, villain calls, villain donk bets at turn or check raises...

and i still don't know how to react, since this type of hands doesnt make me comfortable, even against a donks range, what to do?