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25NL Trips multiway facing River MR 25NL Trips multiway facing River MR

12-13-2013 , 12:32 AM
Bovada 25NL.
MP seems passive and I have seen him limp/fold a handful of times
BB is a passive calling station type fish

BB (12.50)
MP (18.5)
Hero (25)

Hero is in SB w KT

MP limp
hero completes
BB checks

Flop

J 3 T (.75)

hero bets .5
BB calls
MP Calls

Turn
T (2.25)
Hero Bets 1.5

BB calls
MP calls

River (6.75)
A

Hero bets 5.50
BB folds
MP raises to 11.

Hero??

Given the stack sizes, my river plan was to bet an amount large enough to put BB AI yet allow me to fold to a shove from the potentially passive MP.

I am getting 4:1 on a call yet a min raise here seems even stronger to me than an AI shove. What do I beat??

Worse trips? possibly but seems unlikely so I discount this. given the drawy nature of the board, and against 2 oppnts MP would raise the turn.

Bluffed missed draws? I would think he shoves these instead of minraising.


Thoughts?
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12-13-2013 , 02:50 AM
He does seem passive..
Meh, you block KQ but Id still fold and wait for a better spot
Oh and iso pre and bet turmn bigger
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12-13-2013 , 04:51 AM
you've seen him limp/fold a lot and still don't raise pre

can't fold with these odds. He can have KQ but AJ or any Tx is nuts in his eyes
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12-13-2013 , 06:25 AM
Calling. Would've called a shove, too.
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12-13-2013 , 06:28 AM
Call, folding with these odds is a mistake.

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Originally Posted by fsn
you've seen him limp/fold a lot and still don't raise pre
Even if he was limp/calling a ton you want to raise preflop. You can limp small SC's and small PP's here, but I would raise any high cards, even as low as like Q8 and T9.
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12-13-2013 , 07:27 AM
well, obviously
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12-14-2013 , 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsn
well, obviously
i know you know. was making it clearer as it sounded as if you were saying that that would be the only reason to raise
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12-14-2013 , 01:13 PM
Raise preflop. You said he limp/folds a lot. KTo is an ok hand, but played OOP against a player like this, I'd rather just take it down now if I can. And if he calls, you get the initiative postflop against a passive fish. Make it rain.

Ugh, you're getting nearly 4.5:1 on a call and you lose to only KQ. But I play Bovada and know exactly that these min raises are almost always the nuts (KQ)*. I think it's a call just because he could do this with AcXc, AJ, hands like that that made a pair OTR, but I would expect more often than not to be beat by KQ.



*i know KQ is not the nuts, but to a player like this on Bovada it is to them.
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