My only read on Villian is that he's capable of folding 13 hands in a row.


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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SB: $29.50
BB: $32.00
UTG: $23.40
Hero (UTG+1): $25.35
UTG+2: $9.90
MP1: $28.60
MP2: $28.80
CO: $35.45
BTN: $32.30

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with A Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 4 folds, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 8 A 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BTN calls $1.75

No idea what his flop calling range here is, and no idea about his aggression tendencies.

Turn: ($5.85) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($10.85) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

I think if I bet turn, he folds everything I'm trying to get value from. If he raises I'm probably beat and ought to fold AQ.

So I decide to make it look like I was c-betting the flop, and maybe I can get value from worse aces or pocket pairs if he's an aggressive floater.

Do we like my turn/river plan?

Is bet/folding the turn better?

Or should I adjust the plan, give him credit, and c/f river?

um... bump, dammit.

i think i would bet out on the turn. he could still call a bet there with AJ-A10

I would prefer knowing how agro this villain is before trying this, but overall I think its ok. I think you're ahead on the turn, but not so much on the river, though given the price and how it was played, I think you should make the call.

I think you need to go ahead and call both of these bets. With the flop bet/turn C-C line, you're repping a hand like TT-QQ that is scared of the Ace, but doesn't want to just give up on a strong starting hand. So you still may get some value from AJ-AT type hands.

As for his range also 66, 33, and 88 are all in his range, as are AQ-AT, maybe even lower suited aces. AK may 3bet, but against an UTG+1 opener, also may not? This one seems villain dependent, so proceed with some caution. You could be value-towning yourself against Big Slick. If he's a particularly aggressive, floaty villain he could even have 78s/98s or something like that. On the turn, he could also be on a hand like 99-QQ, but I'm doubt these hands bet three streets, so we can probably eliminate them from his range by the river.

All in all, I think taking this line is tricky, and you could be getting a lot of thin value from a worse hand (but not much worse), or your opponent could be value-towning a set or a set.

I think I would probably lead the turn. I like to check it back when I am IP, but prefer to lead when OOP. We only have a one pair hand, so I don't mind taking it down immediately with a turn bet, or if he calls, the turn bet may get us a free/cheaper showdown.

Note: I only play NL10.

Greg

Against an unknown bet the turn. Playing chk/guess isn't fun.

Are you folding if he raises a turn bet?

Baluga, etc.

Yes, and baluga likes betting the turn too...

Just don't pot the turn or something - keep the bet sizing reasonable.

Being OOP sucks. If we bet the turn and we're called, what do we do on river? C/c reasonable bet?

b/f'ing turn is fine as is c/c'ing given board structure.

Not really sure whether I like the river call, I just don't see him betting turn and river here with anything that we've beat if he is not on a complete float/bluff.

I think I probably b/f turn vs a tight unknown here.

Does anyone like b/f river 1/2 pot as played?

TP2K?????

top pair second kicker

I was really proud of my line, thinking I played it best to get the most out of AJ-A9s.

Then he turned up 33.

I guess I would have called more, so score one for me because he didn't get as much value as he could have. I've noticed that when I value-town MYSELF, I tend to do it a lot harder than when I let unknowns value bet.

But I'd have only been out 1 bet instead of 2 had I bet/folded the turn.

So I dunno. I think my line would be optimal against someone I KNOW is a LAG or a TAG. But maybe bet/folding the turn is better vs. unknown.

And in retrospect folding PF isn't terrible either... precisely because of these kinds of spots.

That'd be a pretty unusual line...

bet flop,
c/c turn,
b/f river.

Since he's unknown I'm more inclined to try to show it down if I get to the river.

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