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(25nl)is this too thin shove??? (25nl)is this too thin shove???

01-09-2008 , 06:53 PM
sorry no WPEX hand converter
Villain seem to be calling with aq aj ak big pp type of hands preflop and just playing predictable poker postflop. I play my usual laggy game 30/25 tyle. Yes it can work on a small site where people can fold but still play very fishy.

Seat 1 (playing) : mls, amount $19.61, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : Jarrell13, amount $22.21, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : duncan_bg, amount $19.22, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : ridemyDik, amount $49.98, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : Takerofmoney, amount $23.45, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (playing) : Ed_Zup, amount $29.57, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Jarrell13: Small Blind ($0.10)
duncan_bg: Big Blind ($0.25)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to ridemyDik: [Kc, Qc]
ridemyDik: Raise ($1)
Takerofmoney: Call ($1)
Ed_Zup: Fold
mls: Fold
Jarrell13: Fold
duncan_bg: Fold
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [8c, 3c, 7d]
ridemyDik: Bet ($1.75)
Takerofmoney: Call ($1.75)

** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [2c]
ridemyDik: Check ($0)
Takerofmoney: Check ($0
)
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [3d]
ridemyDik: Bet ($2)
Takerofmoney: Raise ($6)
ridemyDik: Raise ($47.23)
Takerofmoney: Call ($14.7
0)
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
ridemyDik: Show Cards ($0)
takerofdik: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $44.90, Rake $2.35
Side pot #1 $26.53, Rake $0

Last edited by icheckcallu; 01-09-2008 at 07:12 PM.
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01-09-2008 , 06:55 PM
No valid hand comments could be detected.
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01-09-2008 , 07:05 PM
Even if you don't have a hand converter, don't post the results...

I don't also understand why you checked the turn. The pot is still small and you have 2nd nuts, the opponent seemed very passive, so just valuebet.

I dont know about the river, it seems unlikely he would be slowplaying a flopped set on the flop, but since you know he is a fish nothing is impossible. You would also think he bets out a flush on the turn, but since he is a fish you don't know.

You said he plays predictable, but he played this hand very passive and sneaky IMO. Basically you have no idea what the guy has. You only beat a smaller flush and trips, in case the villain likes to call with bottom pair, plus it's very likely he would bet out a small flush on the turn to protect his hand, so I think just calling is fine. If he shows up with something ******ed like JJ here, make a note.
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01-09-2008 , 07:11 PM
bet the turn.. why are you checking keeping the pot small!! i dont see how it is possible to fold when you have 2nd nuts and villain only called pre flop..
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01-09-2008 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tiger_hall
bet the turn.. why are you checking keeping the pot small!! i dont see how it is possible to fold when you have 2nd nuts and villain only called pre flop..
not really second nut but I put him on a small fd, ak aq big pp typer hands. My question is not about folding but rather if i should value shove this given the river paired???
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01-09-2008 , 07:56 PM
Bet the turn. As played I think this is an ok shove, mostly because it's very hard for him to have two pair involving a 3.
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01-09-2008 , 08:08 PM
Not thin at all, he's a shorty...full stack would be a tougher decion.

But, really, what was your thinking on the turn? B/B/B is a line that will get his 1/2 stack without much work.
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