MP 2 10/8 over 40 hands. no other stats are reliable yet.
Other villain weak tag.
Is the squeeze OK purely as a bluff?
And what sort of line post flop? B/C/B
C/C C/F?

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1183688
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UTG: $14.97
UTG+1: $26.75
UTG+2: $10.00
MP1: $28.85
MP2: $61.48
CO: $38.80
BTN: $11.33
Hero (SB): $25.00
BB: $25.50

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q K
4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.50) K 4 T (2 players)
[color=red]Hero ?

I don't like the squeeze oop with KQ.

It's a wa/wb situation on the flop

My line would be c/c flop, c/f turn

don't see much value in a bet

Don't squeeze pre...

B/F flop.

Not even as a pure bluff?

why would your turn KQ into a bluff here? Might as well pick 27o...

what should we squeeze then?

And why not KQ?


have no idea what to squeeze myself, so I'm kinda interested in this hand

Calling is out of the question.
KQ has pretty sick blockers.
Bluffing the top of your folding range > random trash.

I'm a bit unsure of this myself so I would appreciate if if someone would correct me if I'm talking shite.

Anyway here's my attempt at an explanation.

KQ is a decent hand that may have a decent amount of equity on the flop. However, it isn't good enough to get it in with PF. Therefore, if we 3bet and are raised we'll have to throw a decent hand away.

We also bloat the pot with a hand that is likely to flop a decent but not great hand. If we flop TP this can result in us stacking off with a hand that may be dominated.

Hands like A3s and K5s are better choices for 3betting light as they offer good implied odds and you have no trouble getting rid of them if you're 4bet preflop or if you flop TP and there is significant action.

Again our plan isn't to get 3 streets of value.
Our plan is to take it down pre.
If we do happen to see a flop we can Cbet decent boards or give up.
Im folding if he raises me at any point in the hand after I cbet. Im trying to figure out the optimal way to play the hand so that we don't get bluffed off of our equity..

Simply put.
We are risking $3.25 to win $1.85.
Villain has a pretty narrow continuance range.
Print maneys.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...queeze-584380/

I think without more reads on villains on how they react to 3bets, squeezing here is a mistake. Whether it is a good play or not really depends, but I think KQo is a fine hand for it if villain folds a lot here. Playing KQo by flat calling oop is going to be difficult since we can be dominated and we are going to be oop in a multiway pot where we are hoping to flop tp2k and don't even know if that's good.

As for this flop and villains range, it's hard since we dont know their f3b tendencies. I think we can assume AQo+/JJ+ are probably a likely range ip. So, the only hands we are probably worried about are AK/AA/KK on this flop.

I would just fold preflop...

We don't have enough hands on MP2, it would be different if we had a big sample size and he folds a lot to 3-bets. So raising is wrong and calling is also wrong, because we know nothing about his postflop play and he seems pretty tight, we don't wanna be OOP vs a range that crushes us. So folding is the best option imo.

As palyed, i'd bet to fold out his QQ and JJ... If he raises it's a fold and i he calls checking turn is probably best, because i don't think he has a weaker king ion his range.

edit: probably checking flop and betting turn to get value from QQ and JJ is best ^^

Thanks for the in depth reply.
Makes perfect sense, thanks.

thx now I know where all those COTW are, so I don't have to ask next time as stupid and as lazy as I am



And also thank you for the explanations guys!

I think squeezing here is more of a matter of preference. You can either fold or bluff but you can't call. Depends on the image you want perceived. We got a nit that raised and a TAG that called so 3betting with any two cards is gonna get a fold a lot of the times.

We pretty much know MP2 probably has a pair and is trying to hit a set.

He won't bluff at you on the flop so I'd probably just bet and take it down and fold if he raises.