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03-28-2008 , 04:26 PM

React1oN

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Comments on all streets please

no reads on villain

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: $25.25
Hero (BTN): $24.65
SB: $14.35
BB: $103.50
UTG: $25.00
MP: $33.25

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 6

1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 1 fold, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.50) T

(4 players)
BB bets $0.25, MP raises to $3.25, CO folds, Hero calls $3.25, BB folds

Turn: ($10.25) Q

(2 players)
MP bets $7, [color=red]Hero ???

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What should I do on flop? Fold because outs may be crushed? I'm pretty lost

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03-28-2008 , 04:33 PM

BevillTheDevil

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pf is marginal but IP ok (but i think you get in marginal spots a lot like the one your in here). Given how drawy the board is your flop call kinda gives you a polarized range of drawy hands but villians probably dont really realize this so i dont hate a call and hope that BB tags along. As played, on turn Id probably just give it up. The Q isnt really a scare card...what can a raise represent?? AQ (probably raise this pf or flop), QT?, KJ? just not really any obvious hands. Plus MP has shown nothin but strength on an A high board so theres no reason to not believe villian likes his hand. I dont think your gettin good enough odds to call either.

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03-28-2008 , 04:35 PM

Jouster777

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Raise flop to $9, call a shove, check behind turn, hit one of your outs

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03-28-2008 , 05:05 PM

Rambling Wreck

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Originally Posted by Jouster777

Raise flop to $9, call a shove, check behind turn, hit one of your outs

+1
You will get free card very often on the turn.

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03-28-2008 , 05:34 PM

Spenda

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good god PF is silly

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03-29-2008 , 04:27 PM

React1oN

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I'm fairly certain CO was playing very loose and was generally pretty terrible

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03-29-2008 , 04:30 PM

sinderg

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id raise to 11$ on the flop and call allin.

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03-29-2008 , 05:03 PM

Spurious

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Preflop is standard for me imo. Not terrible.
3bet flop imo.
As played call turn.

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03-29-2008 , 05:17 PM

NeverScurred

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I usually fold preflop but calling isn't terrible by any means. On the turn I think you should raise/call a shove. BB's minbet is usually weak so I couldn't count on him coming along if you flat, and MP's raise is basically just a c-bet because he's probably treating BB's minbet as a check. Your raise looks pretty strong here so I think you have considerable FE here.

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03-29-2008 , 05:19 PM

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Parvex

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Originally Posted by Jouster777

Raise flop to $9, call a shove, check behind turn, hit one of your outs

I would prefer to raise to 10 or 11.

On turn I think I fold. You're getting approx. 4:1 implied odds and your flush draw is not decepted at all (it's pretty much the opposite). Only the straight outs are somewhat decepted and if villain does not happen to have a monster or to be pretty unaware I don't think your getting all of his money if he has a bare TP.

For preflop: I think calling, raising and folding are fine. I think I fold it more often than I raise and I raise it slightly more often than I call. Obviously varies with reads and/or loose blinds.

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