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11-06-2009 , 09:50 PM

LordDante

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Villain is 18/13/2.75 in 191 hands. His AF River is 4.
No real history between him an me.
Seems like a standard reg(nothing out of line).

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Vilain (Button) ($61.18)
SB ($36.08)
BB ($25.01)
UTG ($25.35)
Hero (MP) ($25.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K

, J

1 fold, Hero bets $0.75, Vilain calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 4

, 3

, K

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, Vilain calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.35) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $3, Vilain calls $3

River: ($10.35) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $6.75, Vilain raises to $56.18 (All-In), Hero ?

I think this is a call. I presume he has a Busted flushdraw. He can have KQ or a set (very unlikely).
I know River raises are air or nuts hand.
What do you do and why?
Any suggestions are appreciated. TY in advance.

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11-06-2009 , 09:58 PM

JasonMcAuley

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I kind of find it hard to call here unless the villain has shown to be crazy. You mentioned he has done nothing out of line so I'd be somewhat wary of stacking off top pair fairly weak kicker.

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11-06-2009 , 10:01 PM

Spraggy

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Originally Posted by LordDante

He can have KQ or a set (very unlikely).

And we base this on?

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11-06-2009 , 10:06 PM

JasonMcAuley

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Also, a common line regs take at these stakes is overbetting/over raising what they think is the best hand on the river because they know many people at these stakes will stack off top pair. You can't fully discredit a reg's over shove here as complete air for this reason; I don't see many regs make this move with bluffs at these stakes.

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11-06-2009 , 10:08 PM

EV+ Eevee

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11-06-2009 , 10:11 PM

LordDante

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Originally Posted by EV+ Eevee

This is very plausible.
I just dont know, if he calls with that on the turn.(if he gets to the river with that!)

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11-06-2009 , 10:12 PM

LordDante

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Originally Posted by Spraggy

And we base this on?

I just dont see someone seeing the draw on board and not raising with a set anywhere in the hand.

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11-06-2009 , 10:13 PM

LordDante

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Originally Posted by JasonMcAuley

What hand do you think he shows here, if we call?(his range!)

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11-06-2009 , 10:13 PM

Truancy

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i fold here vs an unknown reg

you've fired 3 barrels...what sort of hands is he trying to push you off here

also he seems on the nitty side

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11-06-2009 , 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LordDante

This is very plausible.
I just dont know, if he calls with that on the turn.(if he gets to the river with that!)

I'm not sure he plays a FD this way either, but I think in the opening post you say you hope he has a busted FD so...

That said, if I was in his shoes I wouldn't play a set this way either. His line doesn't actually make too much sense in general if he's competant. KQ...

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