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25NL QQ PF vs 2 fishy cold-callers and SS shove, whats the best play to maximise value?

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03-05-2010 , 10:26 AM

Valkyrie87

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,288

Button is a fish, 75 vpip over 10 hands, CO and SB are unknown stats and read wise, but going to assume 80bb poster CO is fish and SB is pro ss'er.

Whats the best play to maximise value here, a pure value raise or a shove?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): $41.20
MP: $10.55
CO: $20.00
BTN: $19.80
SB: $25.00
BB: $5.00

MP posts a big blind ($0.25)

CO posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.85) Hero is UTG with Q

Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $5 all in

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03-05-2010 , 10:33 AM

robinfromthehood

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,865

Don't hate a shove because any other raise will just leave us having to ship any flop, which is pretty puke if it is like AKx. Also you would be raising to like $11 and a shove is only like $20.

If you want to raise small I actually prefer flatting because the money will go in on the flop regardless, it is basically the same thing but looks less scary to the fish.

Still I think shove>call>raise

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03-05-2010 , 11:10 AM

Brocktoon

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Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 8,674

Just shove, there is almost no way you got cold called by a better hand and trying to play post flop against a caller in a $15+ pot with a dry side pot OOP is barfalicious.

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03-05-2010 , 12:53 PM

DrMickHead

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,947

I say shove. I'd be happy just getting the pot we have now. If the other two want to come along at least charge them the max.

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