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10-18-2009 , 02:03 AM
Villian was 23/11/2.0 after about 50 hands. No history with him prior to this hand. Is my line on this one bad, specifically the river check? I didn't bet the river because I felt this guy is either on a flush draw or made a set but maybe I'm getting him too much credit.

Should I be calling the river?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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BTN: $33.40
Hero (SB): $26.00
BB: $26.25
UTG: $26.15
UTG+1: $27.00
MP1: $25.15
MP2: $27.55
CO: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q Q
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, MP2 says "ffs", MP2 says "why always me", MP2 calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) 7 8 4 (2 players)
BTN says "haha", Hero bets $3, MP2 calls $3

Turn: ($11.25) J (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP2 calls $7

River: ($25.25) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $15.05 all in, Hero ??
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10-18-2009 , 08:00 AM
He has to call $7 into $18.25 with $15 behind. If he thinks your stacking off on the river then hes getting 33 - 7 or 4.7 - 1. This is a razor thin (probably slightly -EV) call by him but people do love to chase flushes.

$4 on flop. Then $10 into $13.25 on turn. This leaves him with only $11 behind giving him 33 - 10 or 3.3 - 1. Which is not profitable for him to call. Invite your opponents to make mistakes.

As played, river is a fold imo.
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10-18-2009 , 08:34 AM
River looks like a fold - you're almost never good on this river against a 23/11.
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10-18-2009 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by arkkw987
River looks like a fold - you're almost never good on this river against a 23/11.
+1

Simply bet flop and turn more and you have easier river decision imo.
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10-18-2009 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ready 2 win
+1

Simply bet flop and turn more and you have easier river decision imo.
this^^

I was the villian in this hand with a oesd+fd (9d6d). The hero and the button (at this time) were constantly 3betting me and as said in HH "ffs" got tired of it and played back. Turn was slight +EV. River I felt he couldn't fold a big pair as he didnt in the past.
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10-18-2009 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SoreNuts
this^^

I was the villian in this hand with a oesd+fd (9d6d). The hero and the button (at this time) were constantly 3betting me and as said in HH "ffs" got tired of it and played back. Turn was slight +EV. River I felt he couldn't fold a big pair as he didnt in the past.
Any reason why you open 9 6 MP ?
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10-18-2009 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ready 2 win
Any reason why you open 9 6 MP ?
I don't usually but table was very nitty and the 30/4's were playing fit or fold on the flop. It's not standard for me.
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10-18-2009 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SoreNuts
I don't usually but table was very nitty and the 30/4's were playing fit or fold on the flop. It's not standard for me.
OP made the call?
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10-18-2009 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ready 2 win
OP made the call?
Yes
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10-18-2009 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ready 2 win
Any reason why you open 9 6 MP ?
BECAUSE IT'S 69 BABY!
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10-18-2009 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by s.boxer
BECAUSE IT'S 69 BABY!
When you call this it is all over BABY

Srsly, I do not want to make jokes on OP. But why did u call?
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10-18-2009 , 05:18 PM
OPs river call is bad (but an understandable leak from a 25NL player) but everything about your play is much much worse.
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10-18-2009 , 06:34 PM
SoreNuts: I looked back at all of my hands with you and I never 3bet you once prior so you might have me confused with someone else.

Yeah I ended up calling because for some dumb reason I thought you might show up with nothing and try to steal this with my river check. Oh well nice hand and I know better next time.
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