SB: $28.49 (VPIP: 23.64, PFR: 20.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.71, Hands: 1,563)
Hero (BB): $49.28
UTG: $67.23 (VPIP: 25.45, PFR: 17.40, 3Bet Preflop: 4.79, Hands: 395)
CO: $8.05 (VPIP: 15.19, PFR: 12.43, 3Bet Preflop: 7.25, Hands: 372)
BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 21.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 61)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to $0.75, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.25, fold

Flop: ($5.75, 2 players) 5 7 7
SB bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

Turn: ($11.75, 2 players) 3
SB bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

River: ($24.75, 2 players) J
SB bets $16.49 and is all-in, Hero calls $16.49

This is hand where I think I was practically lost the entire hand. No idea where I was at, no idea what I was doing, yada yada yada...

SB is competent Reg.
UTG is a bit on the weak tight side, but positionally aware with UTG open at 8%.

So when SB 3-bet the UTG open, I had this feeling that I wanted to puke and proceeded to play the hand that way.

So question would be, is this a fold pre or get it in pre?
And let's say u took my line (prolly the worst option of the 3), which street are you folding? Are you calling down on that board?

We're never good otr

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Don't think we are ever good on the turn either.

I think you can fold this pre although it is hard to do in game. I definitely wouldn't 4bet vs these villains.

Yeah I wasn't sure about whether we should fold turn

Well he won't have a ton of bluffs to begin with and hardly anyone double barrels on this board when it is pretty obvious we have some sort of overpair. We could also conceivably have AA there.

4bet-call pre.

As played we can prob fold river as we now also lose against JJ and he prob doesn't shove TT or worse.

I can see a case for folding this pre, as weak-tight UTG is still left to act and we have no idea what he's going to do. But it would be extremely tough to fold this pre. We could 4bet to find out, but there really is no good reason to 4bet here as we can never do it for value.

As played...fold river. The bottom range villain is triple barreling with (very very bottom) is probably JJ and it just got there. I don't think we can fold on the turn just because of the picked up equity with the flush draw for villain, so he can double barrel with that. But definitely fold the river.

After thinking about the hand a lot more.

i think preflop should be like Fold > 4bet > Call

And I think I should call turn fold river...

I remember tanking quite a bit for the preflop call and my hand was basically face up at that point.
So meh, this hand was just horrible from preflop to postflop.

You think ur ahead of his turn barrelling range?

I think it's close. Depends if he still barrels all the AK combos or just the clubs.

What clubs his turn betting range is AK, kk, aa, maybe jj

I mean, JJ-AA is definately betting.

So it depends whether he's barreling all the AK combos, or just the AcKc.

Edit: If he is barreling all the AK combos, it's a pretty clear call

I actually like the call Pre. SB is not only 3betting JJ+ AK here...if we 4bet we would seem super strong and he would probably only continue with QQ+ AK unless you seen him stack off wider. Fold river as played.

I think fold PRE is terrible for the same reason, he's not only 3 betting JJ+ AK here.

Call > 4bet > fold

Would u 3bet a UTG raise with 25/17 with AQ?KQ?AJ? seems a little to lose for me.

I would, to turn it into a bluff if he folds like 60%. 8% UTG looks like 22+, AJs+, AQ. Weak tight players will probably fold everything but AK JJ+, 74/114 combos which is at least ~65% not to mention we have blockers to AK, KK, AA now which means he would fold a lot more.

Insta profit on that 3bet. We can't exactly flat with those hands oop and I'm not folding out and losing value.


EDIT: I assume your speaking in SB's shoes.