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09-27-2009 , 08:32 AM

It's chowda!

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 974

Villain is 40/9/2.1 after 102 hands. Raising seems a bit gross and calling's probably going to put us in a bad spot on the turn/river given how drawy the board is. Folding against this guy seems weak/tight... what's the best option here?

Party Poker $25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $25.70
UTG: $23.18
MP: $64.41
CO: $8.56
BTN: $25.06
SB: $28.12

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 8

3 folds, BTN calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.57, BTN raises to $1.77, Hero ???

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09-27-2009 , 08:39 AM

cman24687

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,802

peel one and see what he does on the turn. its a limped pot and we dont need to fall in love with our hand here.

just folding the flop is what id do as he could have straights, 2 pairs, etc or even better top pairs.

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09-27-2009 , 08:49 AM

Snaaak

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,071

i check the flop here, he's never folding better or calling with worse, i'd rather raise it up pre than bet this flop.

as played you might still have the best hand, but you need to proceed with caution, your hand is obviously very vulnerable and there are a lot of turncards which could improve villain here, basically any overcard is bad (except the Q ldo), and villains limps on the button so he could literally have anything, i'll just fold it

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09-27-2009 , 08:54 AM

Chiggs

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,698

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Originally Posted by Snaaak

This villain will definitely call with worse on the flop. Lots of gutshot hands, 6x, 4x and worse 8x.

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09-27-2009 , 09:00 AM

Snaaak

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,071

he playes 40% of his hands, and he doesn't raise this button so we can asume he's not positionally aware, what 6x and 4x hands are in his range at this point?

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09-27-2009 , 09:21 AM

uncle_chopchop

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,795

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Originally Posted by Snaaak

he playes 40% of his hands, and he doesn't raise this button so we can asume he's not positionally aware, what 6x and 4x hands are in his range at this point?

villain calls with all sorts of worse hand on the flop; pair+gutshots, overcards etc

peel and hope he slows down imo, we are going to see a lot of scary turn cards though

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09-27-2009 , 09:26 AM

nutstoyou

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 856

IMO his stats are less important than whether you have seen him do this type of thing before. He limped on the btn, but bad players can do this with a big pair, because they "have a big pair" and they don't want the blinds to fold. If he limped with a big pair then he is usually going to try and c/r the flop.

I just fold this. Even if he is bluffing, your hand is going to be very hard to play oop unless a Q or 8 comes on the turn. Long term, occasionally getting bluffed out of small pots when you have a marginal hand is not terrible.

Last edited by nutstoyou; 09-27-2009 at 09:32 AM.

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