I think this was well played actually. If you jam the flop you're putting in 36% of the money and your equity ranges from about 45% to about 26%.

Some sample equities:
vs. 66 & KK : 26%
vs. 45 & KK: 43%
vs. 45 & TT: 25%
vs. KK & QQ: 44%
vs. AT & QQ: 37%
vs. T8 & 45: 43%
vs. T8 & KdQd: 39%


After all the weighing of ranges, it's probably a little bit profitable, although I have a hard time seeing your AE being more than 38-39%....but if you just call you will always have odds to call the turn and see the river; however you may also get the opportunity to see the river cheaply or for free, which is nice as you would prefer not to put additional money into the pot unless you have to after calling the flop re-raise. Also, you are never getting bluffed out here, because if you miss A-high will never be good on the river. Meanwhile SB will never fold to a flop shove.

If you knew in advance the SB was going to betsize like this on turn and river and never fold to a push on flop, this could have been a good call.

Fold flop.

Yes, on further reflection the fact that you have 0 FE on the flop makes shoving *terrible* compared to calling. This is because by shoving you're willingly putting in additional money getting just 1:1 on that additional money when you definitely have less than 50% equity.

Imagine a situation where you and BB have $20 each, there is $100 in the pot, and you have 20% equity. If you put no additional money in the pot, you stand to make $20. If you push with 0 FE, you willingly reduce your profit to $12, by forty percent!

The situation here is analogous.

Call -- you would be getting just about the right odds if SB had pushed, and there's the slight chance that you'll get to see the river for free or for cheap.

ilya...but if the turn comes a diamond and SB puts us on what we have and folds
as opposed to the turn bricking and facing a shove. we lose what equity we would have had. people can be pretty nitty in sidepots and sb is tight (20/14) so I would think he is capable of making that fold. +if he has JJ here a shove puts him in a gross spot. I think this is thin anyway it is sliced

Although I obviously would never of known this, 3 bettor had King of diamonds so would have picked up a re draw on the turn and thus was not folding a dimaond turn.

Dude, with all do respect, you´re trying to justify the unjustifiable. Once villain puts 18,8 on felt, you have ONLY two options: Fold or shove. Calling is out of question because you´re totally pot comitted, since you would be with $17 behind in a $60 pot. And as you said it yourself, you have a good equity versus his range, so how can you fold after that call with 33% equity getting more than 4:1 ? That´s why you cannot call that $18 bet then fold. It´s a wrong fold being 2:1 dog getting 4:1 odds, see?
So, since you will (should) not be folding EVER after that call, you are much better shoving since you DO (always) have some fold equity, even if it´s a theoretical one (your read might be wrong, he might be semi-bluffing a worst fd, he might be bluffing...). And even if you assume you have no fold equity, since you cannot fold after calling the flop bet, you have to shove anyway.

It is a shove for sure.

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Step 2: Name every hand with the information you have that you think both villians could resonably have in there range.

Step 3 enter Ad5d and the flop.

Step 4 hit calculate.

Step 5 shove your chips in the middle in this spot everytime.

Step 6 profit.

you think both villians could resonably have in there range...

just one villian. this is a side pot now

i ship the nickels on the flop

You played it perfectly fwiw, shipping the flop is really spewy here

shove flop so much money in there now

could you elaborate?

I'm guessing it's because we're behind SB's range and have no fold equity.

When someone min-3bets, alarm bells should be going off. The old adage "weak means strong" could never ring truer. So your options are a) call and try and hit a flush and stack him when our equity is 100%, b) raise and get it in where you seldom fold out better hands or keep in worse and get it in when our equity is ~30%. Once we elect to flat and the BTN jams, and the SB rejams, we typically have 7-9 outs and it is fairly likely they will have redraws. Due to pot odds we should call.

Whenever we are considering betting or raising we should ask ourselves 3 questions:
Do we fold out better?
Do we get called by worse?
Do we need to protect our hand against hands with decent equity against us? (e.g. we don't necessarily get value from worse when we hold 87s on 842, but it is good to bet since if we check it can be hard to play on lots of turn cards if villain leads into us)

In this instance we don't have a made hand to protect, we don't fold out better, and we don't get called by worse, but we have a hand with lots of outs to improve so calling is the line.

Pretty much what Blaaz said.