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25NL, NFD + GS, 3b pot oop. 25NL, NFD + GS, 3b pot oop.

09-05-2010 , 05:53 PM
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $23.50
Hero (SB): $26.95
BB: $37.60
UTG: $55.41
MP: $9.29
CO: $26.10

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q K
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) A 3 J (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

Turn: ($11.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero ???

I think betting flop is standard. I think bet sizing was decent on flop.

Options: Barrel turn? c/r turn? c/c turn? If you are barreling for how much?

Thanks.
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09-05-2010 , 06:03 PM
bet/call
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09-05-2010 , 06:16 PM
Readless/statsless i don't like 3betting QKs vs a BTN raise.


OP:
This hand is so similiar to this one: (I still don't know the best line to take in that hand btw)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...commit-867829/

We could shove turn AI trying to maximize FE
We could bet/call $6~ish (bet/folding not an option )

And is c/r perhaps an option? The disadvantage could be that villian could check turn behind, but that's actually not so bad because we could then draw very cheap to Flush,straight
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09-05-2010 , 06:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waayoo
Readless/statsless i don't like 3betting QKs vs a BTN raise.


OP:
This hand is so similiar to this one: (I still don't know the best line to take in that hand btw)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...commit-867829/

We could shove turn AI trying to maximize FE
We could bet/call $6~ish (bet/folding not an option )

And is c/r perhaps an option? The disadvantage could be that villian could check turn behind, but that's actually not so bad because we could then draw very cheap to Flush,straight
I agree. I'm going to go do a leak check with KQs being a 3b hand and see overall how I fair with it.

I think those are all viable options. Here it is as played:

BTN: $23.50
Hero (SB): $26.95
BB: $37.60
UTG: $55.41
MP: $9.29
CO: $26.10

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q K
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) A 3 J (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

Turn: ($11.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.50, Hero raises to $21.45 all in, BTN calls $10.50 all in
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09-05-2010 , 06:25 PM
Well it depends. If villian has a high fold to 3bet% we shouldn't 3bet because when he calls we will be dominated quite often.
However, if villian has a very low fold to 3bet% (so he calls a lot of 3bets) than we could actually value3bet with KQ

So it's really villian dependend
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09-05-2010 , 06:29 PM
btw: villain is running 20/16/1.1 over ~400 hands.
3b%: 3 Ft3B%: 71% FtCB(in 3b pots): 0% (4)

I think given his very low aggression, I should have folded turn?

Board: Ad 3s Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.529% 45.34% 00.19% 25585 107.00 { KdQd }
Hand 1: 54.471% 54.28% 00.19% 30631 107.00 { TT+, 33, AQs+, A7s, AJo+, A7o }

Any other hand combos you'd add in there? I even think 33 is a stretch given his fold to 3 bet %.
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09-05-2010 , 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waayoo
Well it depends. If villian has a high fold to 3bet% we shouldn't 3bet because when he calls we will be dominated quite often.
However, if villian has a very low fold to 3bet% (so he calls a lot of 3bets) than we could actually value3bet with KQ

So it's really villian dependend
First statement doesn't make much sense. If villain has decent steal %, and a high fold to 3b% we should be 3betting wider, but proceeding with caution when called.

I do agree with second statement.

Is my thinking correct?
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09-05-2010 , 06:33 PM
you have no fold equity with a c/r i feel. i much prefer bet/calling
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09-05-2010 , 08:35 PM
Does he ever 4bet? If not, betting again is better than usual cause he has KK/QQ in his flatting range.
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09-05-2010 , 08:58 PM
on the flop against JJ,AQs,AJs,KJs,AQo,AJo its 44%-56%.

chk/ship flop. If you check and he bets you can ship or if he checks behind and you wiff turn you can see a cheap river.
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09-05-2010 , 09:09 PM
3b preflop 4x his raise... bet/call flop, shove turn...
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