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25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board 25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board

03-10-2011 , 07:23 PM
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I cbet with the intention of calling a shove from the shortstack if the reg doesnt want to play, and then this:

I think the 2nd barrel is standard against a reg tag, I never expèct him to have a nut hand here, maybe 77-QQ and I think betting this river might be fine vs this guy, what do you think????


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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CO: $5.28
BTN: $45.67
SB: $27.05
BB: $25.00
UTG: $13.75
Hero (UTG+1): $34.55
UTG+2: $19.30
MP1: $25.85
MP2: $24.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with Q A
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 4 6 6 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.75, CO folds, BTN requests TIME, BTN calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.85) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, BTN calls $3.50

River: ($13.85) K (2 players)
Hero wants to bet
25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board Quote
03-10-2011 , 07:43 PM
I doubt he's folding much that beats you if you fire the river (whether he should or not is irrelevent, fact is ppl just don't imo), but if you check he isn't usually betting lower pairs, he's hardly ever got a monster and he has no Kx in his range so I think you can safely c/c and snap off a bluff from missed draws.
25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board Quote
03-10-2011 , 08:21 PM
^meh, i mean yea you can do that but this looks like a real nice spot to get him off stubborn pairs that win when it goes check/check otr and imo with us holding NFD his draw range that might stab river is very much discounted while his stubborn pairs range on this board is pretty wide. I think we fold out a ton of his range when we bet since hes gonna hate the K since a lot of our bluff range just got there, especially with us opening UTG+1.
25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board Quote
03-10-2011 , 08:56 PM
your half pot bets are pretty much sized to his weak pairs in. Do you bet the same with AA on this board? I think bet more.

On bluffing river: not sure if its + or - EV. Its not afwul though and at least you get to show down a triple barrel airball if called. Pretty fun. I am sort of 60-40 in favour of betting river.
25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board Quote
03-10-2011 , 09:16 PM
more otf & check call turn if he bets giving us pot odds & check fold river

^^ is my std line here vs him... you rep aks and missed draws the way you played it if you bet river and he "should" call alot of times otr.... if i bet river i overbet shove just cause not much kings in his range and its harder for him to call it, half pot to pot to shove otr imo your range looks the same so if your going to bet i like to make it hard for him to call or just c/f... 2cents...
25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board Quote
03-10-2011 , 10:04 PM
Mmm he seems kinda sticky. Low AF, low fold to cbet, high WTSD.
25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board Quote
03-11-2011 , 05:18 AM
You can start by betting around 3/4 to full pot on the flop

1/2-2/3 pot bets are generally just really bad plays that bad regs think are good. They accomplish nothing in building a proper pot size.
25NL Miss my draw OOP w initiative, thinking about 3barrel bluff w good bluff card + good board Quote

      
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