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01-18-2012 , 03:21 PM

AlinMC

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,327

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

MP3: $21.39 (85.6 bb)
CO: $32.48 (129.9 bb)
BTN: $10 (40 bb)
SB: $27.70 (110.8 bb)
BB: $9.39 (37.6 bb)
UTG+2: $9.65 (38.6 bb)
Hero (MP1): $25.92 (103.7 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K

UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, CO raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $4.50

Turn: ($17.85) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $18.50, Hero ?

Villain is 86/14.

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01-18-2012 , 03:22 PM

therightdeal

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 6,256

I would just shove flop.

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01-18-2012 , 03:56 PM

plogrammer

adept

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 821

^^^
yeah, just shove flop

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01-18-2012 , 04:35 PM

pepehahaha

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 201

Same here.

E: What is in villains stackoff range in your eyes?

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01-18-2012 , 04:38 PM

K3ym4k3r

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 153

I don't really like shoving the flop but it's by no means terrible. I don't mind 3b so long as your are getting it in on a brick turn.

As played fold turn.

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01-18-2012 , 11:44 PM

WREKT0R

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 145

Fold turn. Way too many hands that beat you now. Has villain been aggressive or passive in the past?

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01-19-2012 , 12:18 AM

Exothermic

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,810

ide go 10$ otf n shove turn.... u have flush draw if u are behind n altho the jack not the greatest card in the world this villain still has lots of qx...

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01-19-2012 , 01:51 AM

Pay4Myschool

Haz Chuck Norris 4 Dad

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7,462

whatsup with the min reraises?

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01-19-2012 , 05:31 AM

P0k3rz0mb!3

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 10

I say b/$ turn or b/c player could have qx10c u got clubs cover plus mistake was checking turn unless u plan to c/f because c/c is to weak incase u miss river leaves no value for decision. So b/$ sounds good

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01-19-2012 , 09:12 AM

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AlinMC

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,327

Thanks for the replies.

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Originally Posted by WREKT0R

Fold turn. Way too many hands that beat you now. Has villain been aggressive or passive in the past?

He's very active and aggressive so I'm clueless about his stackoff range, he's just been showing up with random cards and I'm certain he could even make this play with something like nines, guess no point overanalyzing anything here. But ye I did check call the turn thinking he's so bluffy and that's probably the worst option, should have either lead out myself flush draw considered, or check fold as played. Guess shoving flop is also good ye.

Anyway he showed Q8o

Spoiler:

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01-19-2012 , 03:49 PM

#11

di0d80

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,459

Easy shove on the flop.

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01-19-2012 , 05:12 PM

#12

FirstPiano

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 30

never fold there. Villain would prolly take the same lines with A/Q here aswell with pocket 6´s. And you do even know hes an aggro donk.
Just Check it down till showdown I´d say since u beat a lot and cant fold out any better hands (nor can u fold out any worse).

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01-19-2012 , 10:40 PM

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Unjammed

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,407

shoving flop is pretty horrible. you guys want to go 1.75->25? you realize we want the villain to call right? these are the spots where we make a ton of our money in poker. as played, we need to be valuebetting the turn vs this guy, not check/deciding.

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01-19-2012 , 11:14 PM

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mtagliaf

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,649

The fact an 86/14 outflopped our overpair does not mean we played it wrong. I'm raising flop to 10-11 and bet/stacking turn.

As it turns out, we had 17 cards to beat him on the river. (9 clubs, 2 K, 3 J, 3 threes). And we're ahead here a ton also.

Check it down till showdown??? No way. We wait thousands of hands to finally get dealt a big PP against a whale. Our hand stays an overpair the whole way and improves on the turn with a redraw. Does he call with worse? Yes. Bet/Bet/Shove for value.

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01-20-2012 , 04:14 AM

#15

sassboy

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 51

weird hand so many options i kinda feel getting it on flop is terribad. i think 3 betting this flop oop is kinda meh because isnt this villain continuing with his whole range that he raised our cbet with.i wud prob call flop raise and lead turn myself.as played i think check folding turn is prob wat i wud have leaned to.but in game against a whale i my have chk called turn myself because of villain having so much qx in his range

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