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04-03-2008 , 12:40 AM
CO Villian is running 21/9/1.3 over 152 hands. Pretty standard. I have a note on villian stating, "over valued TPTK, calling to showdown"

UTG villian is running 19/5/1.3 over 303 hands. Again pretty standard.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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MP1: $17.70
MP2: $4.75
CO: $21.60
BTN: $49
SB: $50.85
Hero (BB): $20.10
UTG: $24.65
UTG+1: $25.70
UTG+2: $16.85

Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to $0.85, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.85, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.85, BTN folds, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($4.25) 7 7 2 (5 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3, MP1 folds, CO calls $3, SB folds

Turn: ($13.25) 4 (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $7.50, Hero????

I opt to just call the pfr here with my JJ. maybe a leak in my game?

I like the flop and decide to lead out even OOP.

Since I get two callers, I check the turn. Any thoughts on this? although its pretty standard IMO. I hate that small bet. Its shove or fold here basically.

I just can't put either villian on a range that hits this board. Am I being too nit here?
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04-03-2008 , 01:20 AM
my 1st thought looking at this hand is CO has a 7, either SC or say A7/K7, checked flop to trap and is spooked by club turn, elects to shut down hand against potential flush draw. I don't much like the call PF, with JJ I would look to isolate more against so many callers on a small PFR
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04-03-2008 , 04:48 PM
I would put a big 3 bet PF. I want to end it here or get it HU. As played, you put yourself in tough spot.
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04-03-2008 , 04:58 PM
If you call preflop you are set mining in which case you should check and fold.

I prefer a bangbangbang. PSB should do.

Why isn't your stack full?
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04-03-2008 , 04:59 PM
I don't really want to take JJ multiple ways and get an overpair and have a tough decission like you do now. Reraise preflop to narrow the field.

As played I bet the turn and fold to a raise. If just called I may check call the river or check fold depending on bet size.
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04-03-2008 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieJ
I don't really want to take JJ multiple ways and get an overpair and have a tough decission like you do now. Reraise preflop to narrow the field.

As played I bet the turn and fold to a raise. If just called I may check call the river or check fold depending on bet size.
Given Hero's stack size, I think any bet will be a committing one.
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04-03-2008 , 05:15 PM
So then check fold the turn
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04-03-2008 , 05:16 PM
You have to 3bet pre here. You want to play hands like this heads up...not multi way. If you don't want to 3bet....then just set mine with this.
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04-03-2008 , 10:55 PM
fold as played, his line looks very strong...

and in my opinion there's nothing wrong with calling pre and still betting... check/folding would be very weak in this spot. i think you played it ok, perhaps bet/fold on turn is a line that's easier to play.
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04-04-2008 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by karlwig
and in my opinion there's nothing wrong with calling pre and still betting... check/folding would be very weak in this spot. i think you played it ok, perhaps bet/fold on turn is a line that's easier to play.
I'm certainly no ring expert, but this doesn't make much sense. If you're just calling PF what is your plan?

A. Hope to be overpair to board?
B. Setmine?

Flop comes 772, so you get A; only trouble is half the table is in with you, all also setmining/playing SC, Ax suited hoping for flush boards.

To me it seems if you're not isolating PF you check/fold on flop when no J comes. You just don't have enough information gained from the flop bet to put villains on any sort of range.
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