I have gone through this hand over and over and to be honest what really baffles me if the min raise PF followed by the call. I think perhaps he misclicked or something.

I just don't see how the villian could have played a set/2pair/straight like this. The only possible hand I think he could have except AcKc is 9c7c.

Oh and yes, before you all say it I know I should have folded the turn.

What do you think?

The villian is a decent player running 20/15 over 100 hands.

3bet - 7% (2/28)
Fold to 3bet - 67% (2/3)

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $5.25
BTN: $38.30
SB: $58.55
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $25.60
UTG+1: $5.00
MP: $6.80

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A Q
UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, SB raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2, UTG calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.00) Q 8 7 (3 players)
SB bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75, UTG folds

Turn: ($15.50) T (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($29.50) J (2 players)
SB bets $13.25, Hero folds

Final Pot: $29.50
SB wins $28.10
(Rake: $1.40)

don't flat the flop imo. Either fold it or ship it. 3bet pot and TPTK in bvb vs an aggro opponent on a drawy board I lean towards shipping.

WAT!? how is flatting not perfectly fine?

QQ/77/88/2c3c/3c4c/4c5c/5c6c/6c7c/9T

You're pretty screwed by this range on the turn, and completely smoked on the river.

I'd say that on the flop it's most likely a big draw (like 5c6c) looking to b/3b and get it in.

Too many cards to either put Villain ahead, or for him to bluff us off with. It could be argued that calling might get us to a cheap showdown but I think it's better to just either raise or fold as we're going to be facing another bet a huge % of the time.

I dont see how a set or 9T can play this way on the turn and river. Would you? Im not sure how the very low clubs can call PF. I dont think 2c3c is calling the PF raise? The only low club hand I can see betting the flop like this is 5c6c or maybe Jc9c. Don't you think?

Can you go into a little more detail as to why it is not ok to just call the flop? I mean I have just one pair. I understand that I don't want to give draws cheap cards but at the same time do I want to then raise up and commit myself (a raise would basically pot commit me) against possible overpairs/sets/2pairs?

This confuses me a little and I feel that flat calling is surely better here.

Thoughts?

He looks fairly loose so I think he may call your 3bet with low club scs, especially as it's a small 3bet given his minraise. They would definitely play this way, especially the hands with an OESD or gutshot as well as the FD.

9T would sometimes take this line. On the turn it's a good b/f size for him incase you called his flop bet with a FD, but as you just call the turn, he knows you very likely don't have a flush, so goes for thin value on the river. The same applies for sets, although I think he would never plan to fold a set, but he knows you can't call with much on the river so he makes his bet small to induce a light call.

Although these hands don't always play like this, you can't completely discount them. The difficulty is working out how to weight each hand in the range before you work out the right move.

Edit: He could also be getting tricky and playing AA/KK like this.

By the way, is minraising from the SB standard?

+1 I think because of this villians range is much wider than just AK. The fact that a full stacked UTG called pre also may make his range wider as well. I could see sets and a fair amount of FD's in his range here on the flop.

I think this is good range maybe can even add in more AX type hands. Maybe like J9 K9 kind of stuff as well but less likely i guess. THe minraise from SB wants me to lean towards like 77 or 88 that wants to bloat pot in case it hits set but doesnt want to put in a real raise?

Completely standard. He won the pot right?

well. Lets see. If you're going to fold this flop, then you might as well just fold preflop.... And I cannot see how raising here makes sense.

This isn't one of those spots where villain is either wa/wb. Villain is almost certainly either way ahead or drawing really live. Given there are alot more combos of draws than there are of QQ/88/77 (or a poorly played AA/KK) and the fact that villains stats indicate he is aggro (those players tend to play their draws fast and hard,) we do not have the luxury to flat and peel a street and see what villain does. I would definitely flat it if the flop was like Q58 rainbow, but to flat it on this board is just asking for a hurting.

Either give up on the hand on the flop or put him in for all his chips imo.