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25NL how many times can V have a worse A? 25NL how many times can V have a worse A?

04-11-2010 , 09:37 PM
villian iw 11/6 over 18. after river his range is pretty polarized to monsters/bluffs but how often am I seeing A9/A8 here?

also would checking the turn intending to call a reasonable bet be a better line?



Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): $26.75
BB: $36.30
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $24.55
MP1: $24.10
MP2: $26.95
CO: $28.85
BTN: $36.05

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q A
5 folds, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $1

Flop: ($2.75) A J 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BTN calls $1.80

Turn: ($6.35) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

River: ($12.35) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $10, Hero ?
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04-11-2010 , 10:40 PM
itsa f***ed decision

dont you think he has to raise preflop with an ace? especialy AT+?
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04-11-2010 , 11:00 PM
18 hands is nothing

why would you check the river if it was not to fist pump call or fist pump fold?
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04-11-2010 , 11:09 PM
Maybe a blocker bet here on the river make it $6.50 or so, then if he raises you can easily fold. Makes the decision easier for you and you actually may get some value.

I know blocker bets dont work against good regs but I dont see him being good
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04-11-2010 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Piper342
itsa f***ed decision

dont you think he has to raise preflop with an ace? especialy AT+?
i see suited aces doing this all day
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04-11-2010 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by I vi ii V7
18 hands is nothing

why would you check the river if it was not to fist pump call or fist pump fold?
This. Either bet/fold because you think he can call with A9, which is really thin, or check/fold because he has better ldo or check/call to induce. Make your decision before you act otr.
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04-11-2010 , 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I vi ii V7
18 hands is nothing

why would you check the river if it was not to fist pump call or fist pump fold?
i did check to induce a bluff... this is kinda a big bet to call no?
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04-11-2010 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ch3wi3
Maybe a blocker bet here on the river make it $6.50 or so, then if he raises you can easily fold. Makes the decision easier for you and you actually may get some value.

I know blocker bets dont work against good regs but I dont see him being good
why don't they work against regs? I don't see many regs bluff raising rivers?
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04-11-2010 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ensano
i did check to induce a bluff... this is kinda a big bet to call no?
It's not like he overshoved.. How cheap a showdown did you want/expect?
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04-11-2010 , 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensano
i did check to induce a bluff... this is kinda a big bet to call no?
What hands bluff here vs what hands call here?

What is his total range by the time you get to the river.
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04-11-2010 , 11:38 PM
bet fold river. as played fold
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04-11-2010 , 11:54 PM
You probably don't have enough of a sample to determine AF here, which is somewhat important in bluff catching spots.

As a rule of thumb I don't really like bluff catching when there is nothing to bluff catch. By this I mean the following:

(1) What hands does he get here with?
(2) Which of those hands are behind you?
(3) Which of those hands is he likely to turn into a bluff?

He should usually check behind all hands with showdown value that you beat, and there are very few draws so it's unlikely that he gets here with air. This means that if you check it's a c/f. I don't mind b/f-ing around 7.50 on the river.
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04-12-2010 , 12:02 AM
18 hands is nothing but stats are leaning toward nit. His range most likely includes small/mid PPs, maybe some suited aces. Nits don't call 2 streets with mid PPs UI and don't turn TPWK into a bluff on the river. This is a set or at the very least 2prs almost always, you have to fold.
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04-12-2010 , 01:26 AM
edit- fold
but if we knew he was some sort of fish this would be a snap call
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04-12-2010 , 01:58 AM
Pretty unlikely that he has a worse ace than you. Although 11/6 might be deceiving in 18 hands or whatever.
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04-12-2010 , 02:56 AM
c/f
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04-12-2010 , 03:32 AM
This be a fold. He was happy to chase his hand when you were 2/3 then 1/2 potting it. His near full PSB says BINK! to me.
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04-12-2010 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Skaloni
bet fold river. as played fold
+1^^^^
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04-12-2010 , 03:48 AM
meh b/f 1/2pot


18 hands is nothing btw. better off saying no reads.
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04-12-2010 , 03:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensano
i did check to induce a bluff... this is kinda a big bet to call no?
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04-12-2010 , 04:07 AM
You checked to induce a bluff on that board?
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04-12-2010 , 04:11 AM
Why are you betting less than 1/2 pot on the turn? There's a lot of value to be hand by making it at least 2/3.

On the river, b/f about $7. Not as a blocker bet as such, but to encourage Villain to call with worse Ax, which he might fold to a bigger bet.
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04-12-2010 , 06:42 AM
c/f you are not inducing any bluffs here
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04-12-2010 , 07:31 AM
less times than he can have a better A


You check to "induce a bluff" then why aren't you calling it??
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04-12-2010 , 08:55 AM
For all those saying chk to induce a bluff, what exactly is villan meant to be bluffing with?
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