Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $24.75 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 3,6, Hands: 1079
CO: $9.61 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 19, 3B: 10, AF: 2,1, Hands: 126
BTN: $15.81 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 10,0, Hands: 434
SB: $40.55 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 1,3, Hands: 688
Hero (BB): $56.26 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2,3, Hands: 109426
UTG: $10.31 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 10

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A A
4 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.20, SB raises to $4.75, Hero calls $2.55

Flop: ($9.50) 6 8 8 (2 players)
SB bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25

Turn: ($16.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($16.00) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $8.00

Thought with stacksize that he'd be 4betting light alot in this spot, hence the flat.

Can we ever raise here even tho we're repping 6x or 8x and its very hard for him to think I'm bluffing?

Bet turn. As played I'm raising to get value from overpairs.

You dont 5-bet AA against a guywith an AF of 1.3 ?
You block most of his light 4-bets from A hands, so more often then not we just are in a great 5-bet spot.
At flop it looks like you want to get value out of his bluffs and at turn also, but dont overdo it, he can easily hit two pairs or a set with your line at some streets, not at this paired board of course, but slowplaying to hell isnt good.
At river, hell yes he can have JJ-KK,why we shouldnt raise.

You are near 200 bb deep and you flat a 4-bet with AA, omg.

Don't mind flatting pre sometimes.

River is a superstandard jam and expect to get called off very often.

EDIT: I'd bet turn smallish tho. don't see anyone bluffing this board anymore after flop gets called and pot is pretty big already, so no real need to checkback.

Like your flat pre he has bluffs in his range and you are deep.
Agree with betting small on turn, river is pretty dam easy raise....

I agree. Flatting with AA should be done around 10% of the time. It does help to conceal your range from thinking villain and can be used to make your hand look like a bluff or pretty much anything but AA.

I'm probably getting it in OTF though.
As played I would raise the river here. Villian does not have and 8 or a 6 here....ever. Ill buy he has JJ,QQ,KK combos here, either way your ahead and raising is almost a must.

Bet turn when X/d to. Don't mind not raising otf, for the same reason you flatted pre, to keep his bluffs in.
As Played raise river.

Its not that I'm scared of being snapped off very often by a 6 or 8, its more that I'm not sure I'm repping anything else than that from his perspective and therefore making it a very tough call for smth like QQ.

That doesn't matter

If you have the best hand here 100% of the time then you should raise here 100% of the time

Even if you know for a fact he never calls here with worse it is still a shove

Well if he never calls with worse and he never has better then by process of elimination he must only call with the same hand. then the only difference between calling and shoving is the rake so you should just call to save rake and also so you can see what he has and take a note. only reasons I can see for shoving in this particular case is to not have to showdown your hand and also if you are just 5 points off getting platinum star and have less than a minute to go before the monthly reset and desperately need those last VPPs then you could deliberately generate more rake to achieve that goal. but the arguments for calling outweigh this I think.

Btw OP congrats on reaching your 1000th post

I think this hand was a bit fps. You should get it in preflop. Definitely bet turn and as played definitely raise river for value, he shouldn't have an 8 or 6 here ever and he'll call with a bunch of overpairs since it will be hard for him to put you on AA.

Ship and get looked up by KK/QQ/JJ(?). Enjoy your $40.

I was trying to allude to the fact that if you have the best hand here 100% of the time then it is a shove because you can't make assumptions about people's calling ranges based on your own tendencies. Value bets are made depending on the opponents range not on what you think he might call with. The matter of the fact is that he should be calling with some hands because you should also be bluffing here some % of the time. The last sentence isn't really relevant here but you should get the picture.

This happens a lot too on these forums where people 3bet AK preflop and the flop comes 225. A lot of people think betting here isn't for value even thou AK beats majority of villain's range on this flop because they assume villains will overfold. The fact that villain might overfold doesn't really change the fact that the bet is for value.

Yeah shove but that flat pre, this deep, agree with philkill