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11-15-2011 , 01:49 AM

WhySoCurious

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 155

villain is reggy, his stats are 24/21/15.0AF over a small sample of 123 hands

he has a 21% open from utg

is a bluff here good or spew?

Merge, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Hero (CO): $27.74 (111 bb)
BTN: $47.52 (190.1 bb)
SB: $49.51 (198 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $31.25 (125 bb)
MP: $25.49 (102 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

UTG raises to $0.85, MP folds, Hero calls $0.85, BTN folds, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

Flop: ($2.80) 6

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $1.86, Hero calls $1.86, SB folds

Turn: ($6.52) 4

(2 players)
UTG bets $4.34, Hero calls $4.34

River: ($15.20) 4

(2 players)
UTG bets $8.13, Hero raises to $20.69

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11-15-2011 , 01:52 AM

0equity

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,732

what are you repping besides missed flushdraws, maybe 66/22?

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11-15-2011 , 02:01 AM

WhySoCurious

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 155

im trying to rep 66/22 and i think he would need 22+ to call. do u think he would call w worse than a boat?

i wouldnt play a FD this way just about ever. i think raising the flop w a FD would be much better.

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11-15-2011 , 02:06 AM

MikeGotNuts

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,991

You're gonna get snapped by a lot of the poor handreaders, and crying called by the rest. Your line is nutted and it's hard for you to have air, but the problem is you rep 2 hands and most "regs" are incapable of folding big hands in these spots.

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11-15-2011 , 02:06 AM

hang

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,579

id call with AK because you rep nothing

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11-15-2011 , 02:11 AM

tiktiktik

adept

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 952

you never have a 4, you raise 66/22 on the turn, and regs probably can't fold AA

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11-15-2011 , 02:16 AM

WhySoCurious

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 155

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Originally Posted by MikeGotNuts

would ur standard be to fold river?

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11-15-2011 , 02:19 AM

WhySoCurious

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 155

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Originally Posted by tiktiktik

you never have a 4, you raise 66/22 on the turn, and regs probably can't fold AA

why would u raise the turn w 66/22? bc ur afraid of a

or 5/3 coming otr and ruining ur action?

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11-15-2011 , 02:21 AM

MikeGotNuts

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,991

Umm, if I thought you might be calling preflop with hands like 45s or bad/weird enough to play a set like that I might.

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11-15-2011 , 02:33 AM

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aznbluff

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,048

Not terrible since you rep almost nothing at all

Also terrible for exactly the same reason

Just matters how villain views you here, which you know (but dont actually since its 123 hands) better than anyone on here can tell you

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11-15-2011 , 02:34 AM

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WhySoCurious

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 155

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Originally Posted by MikeGotNuts

Umm, if I thought you might be calling preflop with hands like 45s or bad/weird enough to play a set like that I might.

sorry, i meant facing his river bet.

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11-15-2011 , 02:38 AM

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WhySoCurious

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 155

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Originally Posted by aznbluff

Not terrible since you rep almost nothing at all

Also terrible for exactly the same reason

mind blowing analysis

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Originally Posted by aznbluff

Just matters how villain views you here, which you know (but dont actually since its 123 hands) better than anyone on here can tell you

he probably views me as lag, but my image should be pretty clean

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11-15-2011 , 02:48 AM

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DaycareInferno

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 18,285

i'm not really a big fan. he's just gonna go lolflushdrawmissed and make a stupid call too often i think.

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11-15-2011 , 02:52 AM

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MikeGotNuts

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,991

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Originally Posted by WhySoCurious

sorry, i meant facing his river bet.

I think assuming 85 cents was his standard open, I'd call. Even though with that river sizing he's hardly ever bluffing, as long as he's opening K9s/KToff preflop, you have the odds to call.

EDIT: Oooops, flop was three-way >.< Now I'm more inclined to say I'd fold :P

Last edited by MikeGotNuts; 11-15-2011 at 02:58 AM.

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11-15-2011 , 03:07 AM

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aznbluff

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Originally Posted by WhySoCurious

mind blowing analysis

he probably views me as lag, but my image should be pretty clean

This is why I never contribute to micro stakes anymore

A bluff here is bad simply because you dont know if it's bad or good. That's reason enough for it to be bad. 123 hands is not enough to be able to determine either way, which makes it bad.

This is 25NL. Everyone here sucks, this sounds arrogant and condescending but its the truth.
You make the most money in this order of action on the river

Fold
Call
Jam
Raise

Yes his range is mostly strong one pair hands here and yes they will think oh **** when you jam the river, but its 25NL. They will still press call and be like "man I know he had 66 here".

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11-15-2011 , 03:27 AM

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WhySoCurious

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 155

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Originally Posted by aznbluff

i didnt mean it to be disrespectful and i said more jokingly than anything. sorry if that offended u in anyway.

having said that i think ur 2nd post is much better than ur first one because ur first post says its not terrible and terrible for the same reason. this leaves people guessing/misinterpreting exactly what u mean.

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