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01-11-2012 , 10:48 AM

chakalasz

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op 45/26 31 hands its good to call all in on flop? or bad and I always will be behind. Its a lot of draws

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($25)
BB ($10)
UTG ($28.89)
UTG+1 ($21.99)
MP1 ($28.87)
MP2 ($9.65)
CO ($12.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, A

UTG bets $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($5.35) 2

, K

, 5

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG raises to $26.39 (All-In), Hero calls $19 (All-In)

Turn: ($50.35) 3

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($50.35) 3

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $50.35 | Rake: $2

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01-11-2012 , 11:02 AM

Mingdu

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I hate these spots, usually call, and then berate myself afterwards.

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01-11-2012 , 11:12 AM

tobe4funas

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raise more, do a happy dance and call

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01-11-2012 , 11:44 AM

MartL

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Meh i probably fold unless ive seen him get out of line previously. Its only a 31 hand sample so its possible hes on a run of cards. You will be wrong more than you are right when you call here imo.

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01-11-2012 , 12:37 PM

vrbik

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Originally Posted by MartL

Meh i probably fold unless ive seen him get out of line previously. Its only a 31 hand sample so its possible hes on a run of cards. You will be wrong more than you are right when you call here imo.

What do you think about his range for this raise here? 22,55? I can not see anything else, maybe KK..
I would call in this spot, but your comment confused me.

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01-11-2012 , 12:45 PM

MartL

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Originally Posted by vrbik

What do you think about his range for this raise here? 22,55? I can not see anything else, maybe KK..
I would call in this spot, but your comment confused me.

Meh didnt realise it was a 3bet pot so yeah obviously 22/55/KK with AK been possible but unlikely obviously. Given its a 3bet pot im probably calling but even still people dont get that out of line in 3bet pots that often. I guess its a case of of seeing how we do against his range of 22/55/KK/AK(i doubt he has a draw given we have the Ace of Diamonds) seeing whats in the pot and seeing if we can profitably call.

Edit: I guess he could have KQs but i cant see the point of shoving that.

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01-11-2012 , 12:49 PM

sump

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The guys played 15/31 hands u guys are putting him on the only hands that beat us ? Lol what?

Call and take a note if you lose.

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01-11-2012 , 12:51 PM

Reg74

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Originally Posted by tobe4funas

raise more, do a happy dance and call

Fully agree, including the dance.

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01-11-2012 , 01:17 PM

MartL

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Originally Posted by sump

The guys played 15/31 hands u guys are putting him on the only hands that beat us ? Lol what?

Its 31 Hands. I think theres a great thread about this on 2p2 somewhere. He could easily fall in to TAG stats by the time he hits 200 hands. I think most people on here will have spells of 31 hands where they have played something like 0/0 - 50/40, its really not that unusual.

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01-11-2012 , 01:22 PM

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vrbik

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Originally Posted by MartL

the thread you mean is imho verneers thread about playing micros.. he has someone on fish stats, then on tag stats and after 100,000 hands or something its sLAG.. that is about how small sample sizes can be misguiding..

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01-11-2012 , 02:11 PM

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chakalasz

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he is fish, because playing only at one table

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01-11-2012 , 02:14 PM

#12

vrbik

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Originally Posted by chakalasz

he is fish, because playing only at one table

stack of with OP is standard vs fish imho..

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01-12-2012 , 01:55 AM

#13

plogrammer

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op, in case u misread the board
YOU HAVE OVERPEAR IN 3B POT VS FISH!!!

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01-12-2012 , 01:59 AM

#14

Imagy

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Originally Posted by tobe4funas

raise more, do a happy dance and call

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01-12-2012 , 05:45 AM

#15

RAW_FORCE

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easiest call ever

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01-12-2012 , 06:58 AM

#16

mrlb

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Originally Posted by RAW_FORCE

easiest call ever

+1
wo will play kk that why???

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01-12-2012 , 08:38 AM

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dbc00per

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I'd make it like 3.50 before flop. As played its easy call IMO, i think he'd 4bet KK preflop and 3bet flop lighter with a set. In this spots i usually see flushdraws or Kx.
BTW Welcome everybody

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01-12-2012 , 08:40 AM

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Cornish Mafia

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Easy call IMO

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01-12-2012 , 09:55 AM

#19

NJD77

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Yep I'm snapping this off for sure.

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01-12-2012 , 09:55 AM

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chakalasz

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he showed K5

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01-12-2012 , 12:36 PM

#21

Cornish Mafia

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Originally Posted by chakalasz

he showed K5

You paid 1 buyin for some golden information - note it and move on.

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01-12-2012 , 12:51 PM

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tobe4funas

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Originally Posted by Cornish Mafia

You paid 1 buyin for some golden information - note it and move on.

i'd be more than happy to give some golden information about myself to everyone who donates a stack...

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01-12-2012 , 12:51 PM

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Mingdu

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Originally Posted by chakalasz

he showed K5

haha ... I bet he called you a donkey after the board paired

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01-12-2012 , 01:26 PM

#24

Cornish Mafia

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Originally Posted by tobe4funas

i'd be more than happy to give some golden information about myself to everyone who donates a stack...

That's not what I meant and I'm sure must people would understand what I meant.

EDIT - just noticed anyway that OP didn't lose the hand. Golden info and the pot.

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01-12-2012 , 02:46 PM

#25

sump

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^op hit one of the best turns he could get.

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