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10-15-2009 , 12:29 PM
Hi guys,
CO is 20/10,
Do you think this line is ev+ ie his raise pre and his line post fits 3 hands here : AK, AA, KK.
Do you think it's the most ev+ way to play this hand?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - [url=http://poker-

UTG ($19.40)
MP1 ($37.15)
MP2 ($47.80)
CO ($24.65)
Hero (Button) ($63.90)
SB ($25)
BB ($25.35)

[b]Preflop[/b]: Hero is Button with J, J
UTG calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $1, MP1 calls $1

Flop: ($5.35) K, A, J (4 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50, Hero raises $7, 2 folds, CO calls $4.50

Turn: ($21.85) 9 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $6.75, CO calls $6.75

River: ($35.35) 2 (2 players)
CO bets $9.65 (All-In), Hero calls $9.65

Total pot: $54.65
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10-15-2009 , 12:38 PM
i'm not a fan of the turn bet size.
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10-15-2009 , 12:42 PM
Don't like the line. Too many cards can come on the river to spook him. When there is less than a PSB left, get it in on the turn.
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10-15-2009 , 12:42 PM
If you've got a strong read on the guy it makes this a tricky situation. But he's playing pretty slow (which sort of makes sense if its the type of player he is) for having trip K or A. Snap call that river. Nothing got there. everything is made.

The problem is here is we're just not sure what he has. His c/c seems instead of a c/r on the turn is a little weird to me, and i would have pushed more on the turn, esp. since you bet 7 on flop.
this situation is worse than it may have been with larger raises preflop. JJ with a call and raise before you and you're on the button? I doubt i'd flat there. raise raise raise.
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10-15-2009 , 01:43 PM
I 3bet here pre. Against his CO range I think we are ahead a lot of times and I see no point in just set mine here with JJ OTB.

Turn line is weird to me. I just get it in here and when CO have really AA or KK so let it be.
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10-15-2009 , 02:11 PM
I'm making the flop bet bigger, and shoving the turn.
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10-15-2009 , 02:16 PM
20/10 probably isn't bumping preflop with less than QQ+, AKs, AKo, maybe AQs (off?). however, any history on villain's positional play? that range might widen with a couple limpers already in the pot if he's trying to isolate with a slightly weaker holding.

considering the potential of trying to isolate with something weaker and it being a positional play, we could probably widen the range out a little, and then the only hands in the range that have you beat are AA/KK. so you're crushing the range imo, and this becomes an extraction hand on that flop (i could be wrong about this, so anyone feel free to tell me why).

with that in mind, the small turn bet is a little fishy after making a decent raise on the flop, since it screams "PLEASE STAY IN THIS HAND, I HAVE YOU DESTROYED", so i think the only way i play this differently is stepping up to around half the pot on the turn, but a shove here probably still gets called as it's still less than the pot with the effective stacks.

cutoff's open shove on the river scares me a little, but for 5:1 payoff you have to snap call it and pray it's AK thinking he was selling you a ticket on the value-train
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10-15-2009 , 02:22 PM
Is he the type of player who would chase a pair + gut shot? If so his range could be something like: QQ+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KQo, which you are certainly crushing.
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